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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
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Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Jmd123
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Oscoda, MI

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Jmd123 on Nov 3, 2015November 3rd, 2015, 6:12 pm EST
So I posted a story yesterday about my latest trout-fishing kayak trip to a favorite local lake, one of two I visit and this one primarily in the fall because it is still open (my other favorite closes at the end of September). Since I moved up here almost five years ago, I have had far more opportunity for stillwater trout fishing than ever before. I have had a fair amount of success but compared to stream fishing it is still pretty much a mystery to me.

Do trout relate to structure, like logs or weed beds? Do they just cruise around, or do they establish territories that they circle looking for prey like rising pupae, minnows, etc.? If you see a trout rise in a pond or lake, is it going to stay in the vicinity or did it rise on the way to somewhere else...?? I have had luck aiming for pond rises and getting subsequent strikes, especially at [REDACTED] Pond for brookies, but not so much at Reid Lake.

These are two very different spots - one is like a giant man-made beaver pond with a spring creek feeding it and doesn't get much over your head, and the other is a 13-acre kettle hole with no inlet or outlet and a max. depth of 38 feet. The lake has finally been throwing decent sized rainbows at me, and they have been going for streamers that imitate baitfish - this lake is loaded with minnows which also feed the ample perch population. The lake also receives 1200-1500 6-7" rainbows yearly, and it has very dense weed growth around the edges and even some at depth.

The pond has ample insect hatches with a variety of caddis and mayflies, and some grasshoppers around the edges as well as the occasional flying ant fall. It is great dry fly fishing and I've taken the biggest brookies I ever caught from there. But it's closed 7 months out of the year (probably a damned good thing) and the lake is open all year, so I always fish the lake early and late in the year and I am not as familiar with its hatches. Mosquitoes are horrible there in the summer - and I don't even wanna think about deer flies - so I avoid it and mostly hit the pond and the streams then.

And how about trout eating snails? Anyone else ever run into this? I mean it sounded like a handful of gravel fell on my deck when I opened his stomach. Was he plucking them off the weeds? Why did he eat so many of them?? Do I tie weighted clumps of dark brown or olive deer hair for this lake? He couldn't have gotten that big on SNAILS, could he?

I know there are references out there on stillwater trout fishing, so if anyone has any particular recommends I would appreciate them. This is a very fun and different aspect of flyfishing that I hadn't done much before and I know the lake has the potential to grow some big fish.

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
TimCat
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Alanson, MI

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TimCat on Nov 3, 2015November 3rd, 2015, 8:24 pm EST
I imagine it would be pretty darn hard to imitate a snail in still waters since they don't really move around much. Although, they would float downstream in rivers, the waters you are describing don't seem to be that way. I'm certainly not an expert though.

Out of curiosity, along with those snails, did you notice any moss or weeds in the stomach too? I've cut open bluegill with a lot of snails in them, but they were accompanied with a lot of what looked like sand and clay (which could just be some other half-digested stuff).
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