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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Sweltsa (Chloroperlidae) (Sallfly) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This species was fairly abundant in a February sample of the upper Yakima.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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DrLaser
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DrLaser on Jun 7, 2012June 7th, 2012, 2:29 pm EDT
Hello this is my first post on the site after lurking for some time and I have a quick question. I reside in Texas about 20 minutes north of Fort Worth and one day while fishing I had a mayfly hatch occur these guys ranged in size from tiny (size 18 hook) to about a size 12 hook size. Along with the mayfly population there is a healthy dragonfly and damselfly population. Now to my question how large (length wise) are mayfly, drgonfly and damselfly nymphs? The damselflys around here are mostly blue fronted dancers. I ask because I tie my own flys but I can not find anywhere actual sizes of mayfly, dragon and damsel fly nymphs any help would be appreciated
Wiflyfisher
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Wiflyfisher on Jun 7, 2012June 7th, 2012, 6:02 pm EDT
Don't speculate... go to the hardware store and get a small piece of nylon screen used for screen doors and two 12" long x 1/2" diameter dowels. Secure the screen to the dowels and you have a bug seine. That is what I use.

Now walk in the river and stick the seine down near the stream bottom. Put one foot out in front (upstream) and scrap the stream bottom with your foot. When you lift the seine up out of the water you should have a types of creatures to look at and use for fly tying models.

If you have a fishing buddy have him hold the home-made seine in the water while you go upstream and scrap the stream bottom with your feet.

If Texas allows you to collect specimens place them in bottle with a little water to take home and review. I prefer to use my camera and take photos of the aquatic buggers and then put them back in the river.



I also carry a small plastic container to separate the nymphs i want to examine and take photos of.

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Taxon on Jun 7, 2012June 7th, 2012, 11:59 pm EDT
Hello DrLaser,

Welcome to this site. Wiflyfisher has offered some practical advise, and you would be wise to follow it. I will supplement that with a direct answer to your specific question:

... how large (length wise) are mayfly, dragonfly and damselfly nymphs?


Mayfly nymphs may vary (from ~2 mm to ~40 mm), as measured at maturity, from front of head to end of abdomen, not including tails.

Damselfly nymphs may vary from (~13 mm to ~50 mm), as measured at maturity, from front of head to end of abdomen, not including caudal lamellae.

Dragonfly nymphs may vary (from ~8 mm to ~50 mm), as measured at maturity, from front of head to end of abdomen.
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
www.FlyfishingEntomology.com
DrLaser
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DrLaser on Jun 8, 2012June 8th, 2012, 6:20 am EDT
Thank you both for your replies I searched high and low over google but couldn't find exact references unfortanetly I am between two university's so I am not considered enrolled at either one otherwise I would have used ebsco databases. I'll give that homemade seine a try unfortanetly the pond with mayflys is a no wading pond but there is a small creek behind it that is open to be waded. Thank you both for your replies I'll post pictures up when I get a chance to get out unfortanetly I work this weekend :(
Wiflyfisher
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Wiflyfisher on Jun 8, 2012June 8th, 2012, 7:16 am EDT
For a pond I would go buy a cheap aquarium net and tape it to a wooden pole such as a wood handle from a rake. Then try dunking that in the pond to scoop out aquatic critters.

If you get the adult bugs you should be able to get some close IDs here or on some other bug websites. Then you should be able to determine the size & color of the nymphs and their characteristics.

There are also some good pretty books on pond life that might be helpful as well.

When in doubt, throw them pond fishies a small, beadhead woolly bugger in black or olive colors. :)

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