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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Setvena wahkeena (Perlodidae) (Wahkeena Springfly) Stonefly Nymph from Mystery Creek #199 in Washington
As far as I can tell, this species has only previously been reported from one site in Oregon along the Columbia gorge. However, the key characteristics are fairly unmistakable in all except for one minor detail:
— 4 small yellow spots on frons visible in photos
— Narrow occipital spinule row curves forward (but doesn’t quite meet on stem of ecdysial suture, as it's supposed to in this species)
— Short spinules on anterior margin of front legs
— Short rposterior row of blunt spinules on abdominal tergae, rather than elongated spinules dorsally
I caught several of these mature nymphs in the fishless, tiny headwaters of a creek high in the Wenatchee Mountains.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Aaron7_8
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Aaron7_8 on Jan 14, 2009January 14th, 2009, 3:05 pm EST
What would you recomend as material for making a seinne to sample for bugs????
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Taxon on Jan 14, 2009January 14th, 2009, 4:51 pm EST
Aaron-

Just get roll of window screening material. It can be purchased at a hardware store for perhaps $5-$8.
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Leakywaders on Jan 14, 2009January 14th, 2009, 5:07 pm EST
I use wedding viel material, get it at a craft/fabric shop... they even have pink. More flexable than the window screening. Don't use aluminum screening, loose ends snag clothing, etc. The plastic window screening tends to unravel.
Drag free??? If the fly didn't drag, I wouldn't know where it was!!
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Shawnny3 on Jan 15, 2009January 15th, 2009, 12:25 am EST
Be careful if you use your wife's wedding veil not to get it dirty.

I like the idea of using something white, as Pete suggests. My seine is made from window screen, but it's black and it can be hard to see insects well on it, particularly subtle color variations. Perhaps I'll make a white one for myself.

More important than the rigidity of the screen is probably how you frame it. I have a very simple design - two upright pieces of trim (probably 1/4" x 1-1/2") that the screen is stapled to. That way, it rolls up like a scroll when not in use and still gives you a way of holding it securely when it's in the current. Make the trim just short enough that you can carry the seine in the back pocket of your vest. Mine's a little longer than I'd like - nice for keeping my hands out of frigid water while seining, but not so easy to take with me on the stream. I keep meaning to take a few inches off it, but I spend too much time on the internet to have the time to do it.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
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Leakywaders
New England

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Leakywaders on Jan 15, 2009January 15th, 2009, 10:26 am EST
OK, I got fancy, I used 1" dowels, about 3' long
Drag free??? If the fly didn't drag, I wouldn't know where it was!!
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Aaron7_8 on Jan 16, 2009January 16th, 2009, 12:57 pm EST
Hey thanks for the suggestions. Tight lines.
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Martinlf on Jan 16, 2009January 16th, 2009, 1:44 pm EST
Gonzo, who is off skiing for the winter, showed me how to make a small seine with wooden or fiberglass dowels, grey plastic window screen, and duct tape. It works very well and can be rolled up and carried in a vest.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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JAD on Jan 17, 2009January 17th, 2009, 1:58 am EST
I use 1/4 inch dowels about 10 inches longwith hot melt glue.


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They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax.
Radcliffe's Fishing from the Earliest Times,
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CaseyP on Jan 17, 2009January 17th, 2009, 5:57 am EST
at last! a recipe i have all the ingredients for! thank you JAD
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