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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Ephemerella mucronata (Ephemerellidae) Mayfly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This is an interesting one. Following the keys in Merritt R.W., Cummins, K.W., and Berg, M.B. (2019) and Jacobus et al. (2014), it keys clearly to Ephemerella. Jacobus et al provide a key to species, but some of the characteristics are tricky to interpret without illustrations. If I didn't make any mistakes, this one keys to Ephemerella mucronata, which has not previously been reported any closer to here than Montana and Alberta. The main character seems to fit well: "Abdominal terga with prominent, paired, subparallel, spiculate ridges." Several illustrations or descriptions of this holarctic species from the US and Europe seem to match, including the body length, tarsal claws and denticles, labial palp, and gill shapes. These sources include including Richard Allen's original description of this species in North America under the now-defunct name E. moffatae in Allen RK (1977) and the figures in this description of the species in Italy.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Stwhe1012 on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 3:31 am EDT
does anyone know where to buy a good cree neck from //
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Palmyra PA

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Martinlf on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 6:02 am EDT
Well marked cree necks are scarce as hen's teeth, but Flyfisher's Paradise in State College has them sometimes, typically at the beginning of the year. You might call Steve (814-234-4189)and see if he will take a standing order and contact you if and when when he gets one in. If you contact Keough Hackle

Keough Hackle
23392 Hwy. M-60
Mendon, MI 49072
(616) 496-7464

you may be able to get a tyer's grade cree neck. I bought a tyer's grade Cree some years ago directly from them that doesn't have as much black in it as I'd like, but has beautiful browns and whites. I don't have any idea what may be available now, though.

"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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Chambersburg, PA

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JOHNW on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 7:14 am EDT
As Louis said they are pretty rare. Another source might be Collins Hackle Farm or Bob's hackle farm both are easily found via google both are old school hackle breeders that sell quality stuff. Collins actually sells the saddle and neck from the same bird for about the price of a Whiting Silver what a deal.

"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn
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York & Starlight PA

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Wbranch on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 8:10 am EDT
In my opinion you should never buy any neck, wet fly or dry fly, without first seeing it. There was a time I used to take a chance and buy necks sight unseen through the mail and virtually every purchase was a disappointment. I would rather drive fifty miles to a reputable fly materials shop to sort through all the necks than have the owner select it for you and then mail it.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
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Wiflyfisher on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 11:02 am EDT
Jim Slattery has some fantastic necks and skins, including cree. He also is the owner of Campfire Lodge & Resort in West Yellowstone. You can call him to see if he has any left and discuss it with him.


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Alexandria Pa

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JAD on Jul 5, 2008July 5th, 2008, 11:18 am EDT
Jim Slattery has some fantastic necks and skins,

I'll put my money on Jim I have bought some skins from Jim and they were everything he said they would be. I believe Jim is on this forum http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zeromain?id=8


They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax.
Radcliffe's Fishing from the Earliest Times,
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Levi on Jul 7, 2008July 7th, 2008, 8:52 am EDT
conranch.com has some but they are kind of expensive, but I know that if they are from conranch they are worth the money.
New England

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Leakywaders on Jul 10, 2008July 10th, 2008, 3:19 pm EDT
I NEVER buy hackle that I cannot see and feel.

Getr most of mine at fly fishingf shows in winter, but always look at fly shops, and I havce bought a few at the local CABULAS strore.

I have 3 cree saddles (snicker).
Drag free??? If the fly didn't drag, I wouldn't know where it was!!

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Troutbum13 on Sep 8, 2008September 8th, 2008, 3:07 am EDT
My pick would be Collin's Hackle. Good stuff! He has a genetic line of chickens from Harry Darbee,Andy Miner and Dick Bitner. Super nice flex,wrap twist free! Charlie is very smart when it comes to his birds {I'm sure he is smart in other areas also,lol}. Let him know what you are looking for and he will pick out something nice!

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