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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Holocentropus (Polycentropodidae) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This one seems to tentatively key to Holocentropus, although I can't make out the anal spines in Couplet 7 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae nor the dark bands in Couplet 4 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae, making me wonder if I went wrong somewhere in keying it out. I don't see where that could have happened, though. It might also be that it's a very immature larva and doesn't possess all the identifying characteristics in the key yet. If Holocentropus is correct, then Holocentropus flavus and Holocentropus interruptus are the two likely possibilities based on range, but I was not able to find a description of their larvae.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Gutcutter
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Pennsylvania

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Gutcutter on May 2, 2010May 2nd, 2010, 6:16 am EDT
i never saw a stonefly this big in pennsylvania.
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GONZO
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GONZO on May 2, 2010May 2nd, 2010, 6:45 am EDT
Tony,

I believe this is a perlodid of the group known a "Springflies" (Perlodini). I recently (4/20) collected an identical specimen on a small Pocono creek. PA has some "Golden Stones" (Perlidae) and Salmonflies (Pteronarcyidae) that are larger. Despite being fairly large (esp. females), the early emergence and (often) small numbers of some of the Springflies means that they are not usually noticed by fly fishers. Until recently, I wasn't very familiar with them either, as indicated by my mistaken ID of this specimen (quite possibly the same species):
http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/782
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Novi, MI

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Oldredbarn on May 2, 2010May 2nd, 2010, 6:53 am EDT
Tony,

This is the guy that made the "Mattress Thrasher" famous on the Au Sable...We call it the "Yellow-Throated Stone". Maybe Perlodidae isoperla...I think they call it the medium Brown Stone...

20-25 years back a friend of mine gave some Mattress Thrashers to a friend that was just starting out as a guide on the Au Sable and he claimed it saved his ass the first couple seasons. When he died the fly became his and when he is brought up so is the fly...I guess this is how it goes.

This fly is a great searching fly when little seems to be happening...If you can get it to sit right up against the structure for a reasonable amount of time it's been known to tease up some nice fish.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

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Novi, MI

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Oldredbarn on May 2, 2010May 2nd, 2010, 7:12 am EDT
Guys! I really need to get in the basement and crank out some flies...The end of May is almost here.

I was thinking of one other thing about this stonefly...I think it's the one responsible, on sunny days, for dive bomb like egg laying. You will be standing there and out of nowhere this big stone crashes to the surface to shake free it's egg sack. They ride on the water a bit and off they go, if a trout doesn't nab them first.

It's pretty cool to see.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
SlateDrake9
Potter County, PA

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SlateDrake9 on May 2, 2010May 2nd, 2010, 2:27 pm EDT
Those usually don't show up until just about Green Drake time here in Potter County. I don't often see trout take them on the surface, but when they do, it's a fun time. The first time I saw them feeding on them on the surface, I had to use a grasshopper pattern to get in on the action as I wasn't prepared for such a happening. I now carry some large stimulators just in case it happens.

The nymph, on the other hand, produces pretty well in our larger streams.
Fishing with bait is like swearing in church.
-- Slate Drake

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