This is the first of it's family I've seen, collected from a tiny, fishless stream in the Cascades. The three species of this genus all live in the Northwest and are predators that primarily eat stonefly nymphs Merritt R.W., Cummins, K.W., and Berg, M.B. (2019).
Fishingtrou on Oct 28, 2008October 28th, 2008, 12:55 pm EDT
there is a spot where this big fish just sits and you can throw a rock at it and it will move but then it will go back to the same spot and ive used all of the differt flies i have and it wount bite... what would you do?
GONZO on Oct 28, 2008October 28th, 2008, 2:01 pm EDT
Try a bigger rock.
Sorry, Mark, just kidding! Do you know what it is? Brown? Rainbow? Are fish stocked in that stream? How big is it? Can you describe where it holds and its behavior? Have you ever seen it feed? Is it legal to fish at night in UT?
Softhackle on Oct 29, 2008October 29th, 2008, 3:56 am EDT
I'm sure Gonzo will add more, but may I quickly suggest a few things:
First, if you can see the fish, more than likely the fish can see you unless you are taking care to hide your movements and your personage from him. This means a number of things. Wearing clothing that is mute; cover your movements as best you can; are you disturbing the bank so the fish can feel vibrations; are you too close; are you casting a shadow on the water? Big fish are a lot more aware of their surroundings and things that are going on. They're also a bit more experienced. Caution in approach is a must.
The fly can make a difference, but presentation of that fly is important, too. Perhaps the fish is seeing your leader. Where you stand to show the fish the fly can often determine how the fish will react, especially if it is aware of you. Determining where the best spot to be to present the fly with minimal exposure of you and your leader, plus eliminate drag, is the key. Even wet flies and streamers often will drag unnaturally, and the fish will refuse the fly.
Look things over, and figure out what or why the fish is refusing your offerings. It may be as simple as going down a leader size, moving to a different spot to cast from, or covering your movements.
Mark
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Troutnut on Oct 29, 2008October 29th, 2008, 12:18 pm EDT
Watch the fish for a while to see if it's feeding. It might just be a big fish-eater that goes out and eats an 8" brown every night and rests all day. You might try a big ugly streamer... or, better yet, a big ugly streamer at night.
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Quote-- It might just be a big fish-eater that goes out and eats an 8" brown every night and rests all day. You might try a big ugly streamer... or, better yet, a big ugly streamer at night.
Good advice wait for a rain or dark skies and try with a dark fly weighted and use Fluorocarbon leader If that doesn't work call BIG fish Louis :)
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