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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Lateral view of a Female Sweltsa borealis (Chloroperlidae) (Boreal Sallfly) Stonefly Adult from Harris Creek in Washington
I was not fishing, but happened to be at an unrelated social event on a hill above this tiny creek (which I never even saw) when this stonefly flew by me. I assume it came from there. Some key characteristics are tricky to follow, but process of elimination ultimately led me to Sweltsa borealis. It is reassuringly similar to this specimen posted by Bob Newell years ago. It is also so strikingly similar to this nymph from the same river system that I'm comfortable identifying that nymph from this adult. I was especially pleased with the closeup photo of four mites parasitizing this one.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Jjlyon01
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Jjlyon01 on Oct 22, 2007October 22nd, 2007, 10:23 am EDT
Sunday I went up to South Sandy Creek in Pulaski, NY. I was appauled by the spectacle there. Hundreds of fisherman packed into one small pool below the bridge, everyone dragging huge cohos, and people fighting. 2 people began fighting over a hole because one guy accused the other of snagging fish out of there. It was obvious he was snagging fish, but the other guy was doing the same. Why would you make a fool of yourself chasing a fish screaming "Its mine you @$$hole"? I went down stream about a mile and did not see more than 2 people all day and I still got into fish. The situation on Salmon streams is incredibly ridiculous. I don't see how anyone can enjoy "hunting" for fish.
"I now walk into the wild"
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Shawnny3 on Oct 22, 2007October 22nd, 2007, 10:57 am EDT
I remember being in that exact spot about 8 years ago and witnessing a similar spectacle. No one was fist-fighting, but the memory of a high-school kid skipping school to "fish" is still etched in my mind: Every time he snagged one, he'd start screaming, "Holy SH*T! Holy F*CKING SH*T!!!" Let's just say the experience wasn't tranquil. I wasn't a very experienced fisherman at the time and wasn't smart enough to find another spot to fish. Instead, I just got in my car and left, and I haven't fished the salmon run since. It's too bad the law doesn't make provision in those situations for killing someone.

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RleeP
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RleeP on Oct 22, 2007October 22nd, 2007, 12:49 pm EDT
This is why it is such a blessing that the attempts to establish a King and Coho fishery in the PA Lake Erie tribs back in the 70's were abandoned.

The fishery has enough crowding problems without this annual blossoming of the low-lifes that plague some of the Lake Ontario streams during the salmon runs.


Jamie: I got a little behind and will be sending your package out later this week (club stuff)..

Lee
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Troutnut on Oct 22, 2007October 22nd, 2007, 3:33 pm EDT
I don't see how anyone can enjoy "hunting" for fish.


I guess it depends how you define "hunting" for fish. Lots of people use that term to refer to searching up and down the river for sign of an especially large trout, then watching it to figure out what it's doing and carefully stalking in to try to catch it. That kind of "hunting" for fish is one of the highest forms of our sport.

Of course, I agree with you completely about the salmon circus. Off the beaten path is the only way to do it.
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Jjlyon01
SUNY Environmental Science and Forestry, Syracuse

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Jjlyon01 on Oct 22, 2007October 22nd, 2007, 3:38 pm EDT
Sorry for the bad terminology. I actually meant to say "fighting" for fish, but my head was in other places. It is a huge shame people feel that that is the way to fish...but i guess different people have different ideas you cannot change.
"I now walk into the wild"
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Troutnut on Oct 23, 2007October 23rd, 2007, 10:12 am EDT
Yeah. They're the same people whose idea of hunting is to go around drunk in a pickup truck with a spotlight at night blasting away at deer with automatic weapons, or as they call it, "their 2nd amendment rights."
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