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Lateral view of a Male Baetis (Baetidae) (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #43 in New York
Blue-winged Olives
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Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.

27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Wbranch on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 12:13 pm EST
This picture is related to a post by Summer_doug and his mysterious little fish. Someone mentioned it might be a steelhead smolt. This picture is what steelhead smolts generally look like. Quite a bit different than
Summer_doug's fish. While this fish is about 7" long even smaller smolt's have this same appearance.
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Oldredbarn on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 12:18 pm EST
I agree with you Matt...See my response to his post. -Spence
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Millcreek on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 1:03 pm EST
I still believe it's a steelhead parr. These accounts are from California and show several lifestages of steelhead.


http://calfish.ucdavis.edu/species/?uid=39&ds=698

http://parkway.scrwatershed.org/theriver/species/southern-steelhead.html


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Wbranch on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 1:10 pm EST
I don't know - Summer_doug's fish has a deeply forked tail and there don't appear to be very many spots on the caudal fin like the steelhead smolt pictures I have seen. Maybe Jason could chime in hear with a more definitive and educated opinion of the origin of this little guy.
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Millcreek on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 1:24 pm EST
Yeah, I agree that Jason's opinion would be welcome. I don't know either - it could be a salmon parr.
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Summer_doug on Feb 6, 2020February 6th, 2020, 10:05 pm EST
A poster here referenced Chinook salmon parr as the most likely identification. After looking at numerous pictures online, I could see the resemblance.

I also see similarities with Coho salmon parr, but I don't really know what to look for.

I've been using this as an opportunity to try and understand the life stages of our Michigan fish.
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Jmd123 on Feb 7, 2020February 7th, 2020, 3:58 am EST
Chinook is my guess. They do actually spawn here in MI once in a while!

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Jmd123 on Feb 7, 2020February 7th, 2020, 4:00 am EST
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/home/library/pdfs/habitat/adfg_hr_id_cards_v1.1.pdf

Chinook for sure! As I said, a high number of parr marks is distinctive.

Jonathon
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Swpabrown on Feb 11, 2020February 11th, 2020, 10:59 am EST
Hello new member here i am a lifelong trout nut looking forward to this forum
i cant help but think the pic is a rainbow they look alot like the wild rainbows we have here in a couple isolated headwater streams in pa jus a guess

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Wbranch on Feb 11, 2020February 11th, 2020, 12:07 pm EST
Hello pabrown,

I posted the picture of a steelhead (rainbow) smolt (a young trout or salmon) in response to the OP by Summer_doug about the identification of a very small trout species he caught in Michigan. That smolt is by no means wild and it was most likely raised in a hacthery. PA stocks 1 million smolts into the streams entering Lake Erie every year. I've read they get about a 10% return of adult steelhead. That's at least 100,000 adult fish to no more than about a dozen little creeks.
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Troutnut on Feb 20, 2020February 20th, 2020, 4:51 pm EST
I posted in Summer_doug's thread too, but I think Summer_doug's fish is a Coho, and of course Wbranch's fish above is a rainbow/steelhead. I explained the reasons for going with Coho instead of Chinook in the other thread.
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Wbranch on Feb 27, 2020February 27th, 2020, 8:40 am EST
and of course Wbranch's fish above is a rainbow/steelhead.


I posted my picture because it is obvious Summer-doug's fish is NOT a steelhead.
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