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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Grammotaulius betteni (Limnephilidae) (Northern Caddisfly) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This is a striking caddis larva with an interesting color pattern on the head. Here are some characteristics I was able to see under the microscope, but could not easily expose for a picture:
- The prosternal horn is present.
- The mandible is clearly toothed, not formed into a uniform scraper blade.
- The seems to be only 2 major setae on the ventral edge of the hind femur.
- Chloride epithelia seem to be absent from the dorsal side of any abdominal segments.
Based on these characteristics and the ones more easily visible from the pictures, this seems to be Grammotaulius. The key's description of the case is spot-on: "Case cylindrical, made of longitudinally arranged sedge or similar leaves," as is the description of the markings on the head, "Dorsum of head light brownish yellow with numerous discrete, small, dark spots." The spot pattern on the head is a very good match to figure 19.312 of Merritt R.W., Cummins, K.W., and Berg, M.B. (2019). The species ID is based on Grammotaulius betteni being the only species of this genus known in Washington state.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Stewart711
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Stewart711 on Nov 22, 2014November 22nd, 2014, 12:30 pm EST
I came across a dead 15" long female brook trout. I decided to look in its stomach to see what it had been eating. Jammed next to what looked like a ring of muscle at the end of the stomach were (4) pieces of wood, one at 1- 1/2" x 3/8" x 3/8", two pieces at 1-1/2" x 1/4" x 1/4" and a 1-1/2" long 1/8" diameter twig.

Does anyone know anything about behavior like this? Has anybody ever seen anything like this?

Stewart
Millcreek
Healdsburg, CA

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Millcreek on Nov 22, 2014November 22nd, 2014, 1:15 pm EST
Sounds like it may have been eating the larvae of Heteroplectron caddisflies. They hollow out pieces of wood to use as cases. Not sure where you are geographically but there are species of Heteroplectron in the eastern and western states. Here is a link to some photos of the western species - http://www.troutnut.com/topic/8629/Heteroplectron-californicum#42121
You'll need to scroll up to the top to see the photo of the cases of mature larvae. Eastern species have a similar case. If you still have the pieces of wood check to see if they have a hole through them.
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Stewart711
Long Island, NY

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Stewart711 on Nov 22, 2014November 22nd, 2014, 3:08 pm EST
Hello Millcreek

They were definitely tree branch pieces, not those caddis homes.
Millcreek
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Millcreek on Nov 22, 2014November 22nd, 2014, 3:41 pm EST
Stewart711

I tried a Google search for "twigs trout stomach" and twigs seem to end up in trout stomachs fairly often, along with cigarette butts. No real explanation of why they do but maybe they come floating along the top of the water, the fish reacts as if they're food and they're in the stomach before it can spit them out. Be interesting to see if anybody comes up with other ideas about this.
Mark
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Stewart711
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Stewart711 on Nov 22, 2014November 22nd, 2014, 3:47 pm EST
Hello again Millcreek

I think the wood chunks caused a blockage and it starved to death. They were really jammed in there, bundled like firewood.

Stewart
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Troutnut on Nov 23, 2014November 23rd, 2014, 4:42 am EST
I published a scientific paper this year about drift-feeding fish (juvenile salmon in this case) going after debris. Basically, it's more difficult than you'd guess for fish to tell the difference between insects and debris underwater when it's flying at them at high speed in the current and they only have a fraction of a second to decide whether to grab it or let it pass. Normally they're very good at spitting out debris and only swallowing food, though. What might have happened in this case is that the fish had some good meals of cased caddisflies that looked and mostly tasted like twigs recently, so it started swallowing actual twigs without realizing they weren't the same thing. But there are lots of other possibilities.
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Grants Pass, OR

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Creno on Nov 25, 2014November 25th, 2014, 1:35 pm EST
Back in the 70-80's I spent several years looking at 100's of fish stomach contents, including brook, cutthroat, rainbow and browns from Colorado. Both brooks and cuts had a major proportion of their "diet" composed of small sticks and pine needles. Most browns and rainbows from the same high elevation habitats lacked sticks and pine needles. I always suspected that the difference was caused by feeding habits with the brooks and cuts focusing on the surface. All the fish were healthy so I guess it didn't bother them enough to pass what they didn't get nourishment from in order to be sure to get whatever else was floating by.
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RMlytle on Nov 29, 2014November 29th, 2014, 4:48 am EST
I can't tell enough about you how often I've seen brookies nail those little pine cones and bits of bark. Traditionally, brookies have been found in many places with a lack of food sources. Take your typical small mountain freestone in, say New Hampshire: very little food for insect, very few insects, but still rich with wild brookies. They can only survive by taking everything that comes down their feeding lane. This trait is probably genetically attributable to fishes living in these environments. Rainbows and browns were, traditionally, from more rich water bodies, so it makes sense that they would be more discriminating.
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Jmd123 on Nov 30, 2014November 30th, 2014, 5:54 pm EST
Jason, I was in grad school with Mark Wipfli at Michigan State in the late '80s/early '90s! I see he is second author on your paper (Congrats on your Doctorate, Doctor!!) so I assume you know him fairly well? Tell him Jonathon DeNike says hi and has some fun memories to share. Ask him about the Linnean Games when we were all at MSU!

Separate congrats on your "Dr. Troutnut" thread!

Jonathon
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Stewart711
Long Island, NY

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Stewart711 on Dec 1, 2014December 1st, 2014, 3:08 pm EST
What happened here? Is the the "General Discussion of Fly Fishing, Trout and Salmon, and Stream Insects" section or the stroke the administrator section?


Thanks to all for your input.

Stewart

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