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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Artistic view of a Perlodidae (Springflies and Yellow Stones) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This one seems to lead to Couplet 35 of the Key to Genera of Perlodidae Nymphs and the genus Isoperla, but I'm skeptical that's correct based on the general look. I need to get it under the microscope to review several choices in the key, and it'll probably end up a different Perlodidae.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Martinlf on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 10:38 am EDT
Does anyone have a good QG wet fly pattern that they would be willing to share?
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

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Crepuscular on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 11:32 am EDT
yes
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Gutcutter on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 11:52 am EDT
No
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Martinlf on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 12:59 pm EDT
Thanks
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Oldredbarn on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 2:08 pm EDT
Wow! You guys are tough! :)
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Entoman on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 2:22 pm EDT
:)LOL Yes, I was wondering why Louis thanked our overly verbose buddies.
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Lastchance on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 2:41 pm EDT
Maybe?


I didn't see a "maybe."
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Falsifly on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 4:44 pm EDT
Some strange goings on here. Kurt are you playing games?
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When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
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Entoman on Mar 26, 2013March 26th, 2013, 4:47 pm EDT
Who, me? ;)
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Entoman on Mar 27, 2013March 27th, 2013, 1:58 pm EDT
Does anyone have a good QG wet fly pattern that they would be willing to share?


A serious comment to address your thread, Louis --

Out here, we have the equivalent to pleuralis (Quill Gordon) and vitreus (Little Marryatt) with our longimanus (Yellow Quill) and albertae (Pink Lady). From all the photos I've seen they look pretty much the same, though the Quill Gordons can be darker. The other difference is ours hatch much later when a lot is going on so they never achieved the tradition of importance yours have. That and being the alleged model for the first dry fly in this country has probably raised its significance to perhaps greater heights than it deserves?

IMO, you can't beat the Flymph or Bird's Nest in the appropriate shade. These are pretty much the only emergers I use for heptaginiids. Whether these comments apply back East is for others to comment on, but the Flymph is PA in origin, so I would think so. Just to throw something different at the fish they may not have seen in this situation, try an unweighted Bird's Nest in the margins and see what happens!
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Martinlf on Mar 27, 2013March 27th, 2013, 3:39 pm EDT
Thanks, Kurt. I'm sort of looking for a pattern that differs from the classic QG wet, which uses a wood duck wing, since QG's have a dun wing without the markings seen in other bugs that hatch later. I think I have a good idea, and Eric is going to share one of his patterns with me at some point, so I'm good. Though Tony is bad, very bad.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

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Entoman on Mar 27, 2013March 27th, 2013, 4:59 pm EDT
It would be really cool to actually see photos of their emergence. My gut tells me they look very similar to diving baetids with their wings collapsed around their bodies more along the sides than over their backs (as you see in art renderings). The real question is how filled are their wings during this process. Some think they are still largely folded up until they hit the atmosphere. They seem to appear fully formed at the surface awfully quickly for that. The answer to this will greatly impact our tying.
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
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Sayfu on Mar 28, 2013March 28th, 2013, 5:18 am EDT

For the incredible success I had fishing the Yellow Quills as they also are called in the West...Epeorus Albertae, I incorporated the halo wing in my soft hackle emerger..(the gray, shiny, EP fibers) realizing they hatch out subsurface...Tails, cream body, halo winging, and the light colored feather from a Partridge behind a metal bead head. The winging could have been a trigger.

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