Header image
Enter a name
Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Neoleptophlebia (Leptophlebiidae) Mayfly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
Some characteristics from the microscope images for the tentative species id: The postero-lateral projections are found only on segment 9, not segment 8. Based on the key in Jacobus et al. (2014), it appears to key to Neoleptophlebia adoptiva or Neoleptophlebia heteronea, same as this specimen with pretty different abdominal markings. However, distinguishing between those calls for comparing the lengths of the second and third segment of the labial palp, and this one (like the other one) only seems to have two segments. So I'm stuck on them both. It's likely that the fact that they're immature nymphs stymies identification in some important way.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
Troutnut is a project started in 2003 by salmonid ecologist Jason "Troutnut" Neuswanger to help anglers and fly tyers unabashedly embrace the entomological side of the sport. Learn more about Troutnut or support the project for an enhanced experience here.

Crepuscular has attached this picture. The message is below.
Crepuscular
Crepuscular's profile picture
Boiling Springs, PA

Posts: 920
Crepuscular on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 6:57 am EDT
First sizable fish for 2012 for me
Pryal74
Pryal74's profile picture
Escanaba, MI

Posts: 168
Pryal74 on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 9:05 am EDT
Nice catch! Looks like a chunky and solid splake. How big?
Softhackle
Softhackle's profile picture
Wellsville, NY

Posts: 540
Softhackle on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 9:48 am EDT
It's still a nice catch, even for a stocked trout. It must have been around a while.

Mark
"I have the highest respect for the skilled wet-fly fisherman, as he has mastered an art of very great difficulty." Edward R. Hewitt

Flymphs, Soft-hackles and Spiders: http://www.troutnut.com/libstudio/FS&S/index.html
PaulRoberts
PaulRoberts's profile picture
Colorado

Posts: 1776
PaulRoberts on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 11:22 am EDT
That's a bruiser of a brookie. Not many that size that didn't get a good start on pellet rations.

Hey, I have that same rod -or at least in the same T&T line.
Crepuscular
Crepuscular's profile picture
Boiling Springs, PA

Posts: 920
Crepuscular on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 4:42 pm EDT
Paul: Yeah, I'm sure she ate more than her share of pellets...surprised she even knew what a yellow stonefly looked like...That's a T&T LPS 8' #4 I got it for an unbelievable price a few years ago when they were discontinuing the two-piece rods.

Pryal74: Don't think its a splake, but I'm not sure, I don't think the PA raises those critters. As for the size, the distance from the end of the reel seat to the top of the handle is 10.5" so that fish probably went 18" but it was thick.
Pryal74
Pryal74's profile picture
Escanaba, MI

Posts: 168
Pryal74 on Mar 14, 2012March 14th, 2012, 10:03 pm EDT
I'm not one hundred percent on it, but I'm pretty certain. It has some tell tale signs, the head, the spot pattern on the lower sides and the lesser shown vermiculations. I could be wrong of course. There's a northern river in the U.P. that has them. Here are a couple of photos of some splake we landed from a smaller river.



Jesse
Jesse's profile picture
Posts: 378
Jesse on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 3:53 am EDT
Splake or not..some great looking fish id say!
Most of us fish our whole lives..not knowing its not the fish that we are after.
http://www.filingoflyfishing.com
FisherOfMen
FisherOfMen's profile picture
NY

Posts: 115
FisherOfMen on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 9:33 am EDT
Those are some great looking trout, but I'm bewildered as to how you guys can tell what's what. I've mistaken trout species all my life, and splake just mixes things up all the more!

Some handsome lunkers, I'd say. The length gives them a pike-ish look almost!
"Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught." -Author Unknown

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke
Jmd123
Jmd123's profile picture
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2474
Jmd123 on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 10:38 am EDT
Some very nice looking fishies there, boys. Yes, Spence, trout opener here in Michigander-land is not too far away...but, there are kayaking opportunities for trout opening up with the melting ice, so I'll be getting some "pre-openers" any day now! If ya wanna try some, I can get you a borrowed kayak. And, although [REDACTED] Pond won't open until regular season does, we should be seeing some of these giant brookies in there within a few years.

Of course, four hours of flycasting for steelhead last night produced...nothing.

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
FishThirty
FishThirty's profile picture
Md

Posts: 9
FishThirty on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 12:26 pm EDT
I tend to agree that PA stocks brookies but not splake. Im no expert either but the squared tail on this fish screams brook to me. I always thought of splake having a slight fork in the tail. The pictures posted suggest so as well. Great fish no matter where it was caught.
"What time is it? It's FISH THIRTY!"
Pryal74
Pryal74's profile picture
Escanaba, MI

Posts: 168
Pryal74 on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 4:53 pm EDT
@ Spence, I'm not sure what you're getting at all. Also, not everyone up here speaks in that dialect, thanks goodness.

The pictures are just to show a comparison. It's a great catch Crepuscular landed. I wasn't trying to offend or get into a battle with anyone.
Oldredbarn
Oldredbarn's profile picture
Novi, MI

Posts: 2600
Oldredbarn on Mar 15, 2012March 15th, 2012, 7:10 pm EDT
Sorry Jim...Just trying to be funny and maybe over the top here. Didn't mean to offend. Really.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Pryal74
Pryal74's profile picture
Escanaba, MI

Posts: 168
Pryal74 on Mar 16, 2012March 16th, 2012, 1:42 am EDT
NO sweat man. I could tell you about a steelhead trip last spring where almost EVERYONE we ran into talked like that though. I still have a good laugh about it.
Crepuscular
Crepuscular's profile picture
Boiling Springs, PA

Posts: 920
Crepuscular on Mar 16, 2012March 16th, 2012, 5:14 am EDT
You're not offending me, ( I don't think that's possible). And I didn't see it as an argument. Who knows what those guys at the PA Fish commssion are up to? It never even crossed my mind that the fish could be a Splake. I found the obervation fascinating, just what I needed, another distraction from what I should be doing. As if the weather and the fact that I've been seeing Hendricksons for the last two days wasn't enough. It gave me a chance to try and do a little research on what genetic lines of trout the PA Fish commssion actually breeds. Of course, I came up with conflicting answers (about other crosses and genetic lines of fish) but nothing on splake.
Oldredbarn
Oldredbarn's profile picture
Novi, MI

Posts: 2600
Oldredbarn on Mar 16, 2012March 16th, 2012, 7:03 am EDT
You're not offending me, ( I don't think that's possible).


No Eric...I was talking about a post, that I have since pulled, where I was poking a little fun at my Yooper cousins...Not you. Back when I was still in college and working midnights to pay for it I would skate at a local ice rink in the morning after work with a group of seniors who where originally from the UP. They adopted me and I was invited to their Christmas party and their end of the season party before they closed the rink down for the summer months...I was a bit over the top and trying to be cute with dialect etc and got called out on it...It should of been a PM.

Jim and I have straightened it out and I'll try and behave myself here, eh...;)

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Jmd123
Jmd123's profile picture
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2474
Jmd123 on Mar 16, 2012March 16th, 2012, 9:13 am EDT
Spence, with regards to Yooper-speak, all I can say is, Oh Yah, some of dem doo talk like dat up dere...I suspect it's a bit of leftover Scandanavian accent from some of the early settlers. Y'all think that sounds funny? Try a deep southern Georgia drawl, or a New Englander accent (let's pahk da cahr an' go to da bah...). Or the butchured Mexican names in Texas that I had the misfortune to hear after I had learned Spanish in the Peace Corps (don't even get me started on Chilean "Spanish"). Hey, they all probably think WE talk funny!

Reminds me of a funny interaction I had with some Chinese folks at my favorite bass pond in Ann Arbor. The wife of the family started babbling away at me in Chinese and I was about to say, "I'm sorry, I don't understand", and then she stuck her hands out in a gesture of fish size! Suddenly, everything was clear...

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...

Quick Reply

Related Discussions

Topic
Replies
Last Reply
7
Jul 16, 2008
by GONZO
1
Apr 18, 2010
by Jmd123
Troutnut.com is copyright © 2004-2024 (email Jason). privacy policy