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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Kogotus (Perlodidae) Stonefly Nymph from Mystery Creek #199 in Washington
This one pretty clearly keys to Kogotus, but it also looks fairly different from specimens I caught in the same creek about a month later in the year. With only one species of the genus known in Washington, I'm not sure about the answer to this ID.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Oldredbarn
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Oldredbarn on Sep 1, 2011September 1st, 2011, 5:39 am EDT
PS - Spence, Powerbait works really well as a strike indicator.


Kurt...What's a "strike indicator"? ;)

Spence

During Trico seasons past I would sometimes get the occassional knot nipper who would rise to and strike one of my leader knots...Maybe if I coated it in Power-Bait he'd get a little treat while he was there messing with my head...:)
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TNEAL
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TNEAL on Sep 1, 2011September 1st, 2011, 6:28 am EDT
Super glue some #24's to the underside of those knots.... saves on tying materials.....
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Oldredbarn on Sep 1, 2011September 1st, 2011, 6:45 am EDT
Super glue some #24's to the underside of those knots.... saves on tying materials.....


Funny mister! But now that you reminded me, I meant to ask you about a post somewhere here where you made mention of tying Tricos, I think it was, on the bend of larger than normal hooks...You want to expand on this? Please.

Spence

I'll be in town the weekend after Labor Day...You and JR up to hanging somewhere late Saturday or maybe fishing somewhere Sunday??? Breakfast Sunday morning might be nice...PM me your response. Take Care!
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Entoman on Sep 1, 2011September 1st, 2011, 10:24 am EDT
Who was it that said, "if you have to explain a joke the humor has been missed"?
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TNEAL
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TNEAL on Sep 1, 2011September 1st, 2011, 7:44 pm EDT
Or maybe we could tie 6 or more tricos along the shank of a #6 and go with 2x....
Sayfu
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Sayfu on Sep 2, 2011September 2nd, 2011, 5:13 am EDT

TNEAL..Chernobyl tricos! Giant "Smitting risers" All kinds of mutations in the quality of water we have today!
TNEAL
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TNEAL on Sep 2, 2011September 2nd, 2011, 9:56 am EDT
The quality of water we have today...

When I was a kid (50's), we used to drink directly from the East Branch of Michigan's AuSable river... hint: don't try it today!
Sayfu
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Sayfu on Sep 2, 2011September 2nd, 2011, 4:22 pm EDT
TNEAL..I tried to use the English term for those little dimpled rises from midges, and called them "smitting", but the term could be a "smutting" rise.
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Entoman on Sep 2, 2011September 2nd, 2011, 10:15 pm EDT
Sayfu -

TNEAL..I tried to use the English term for those little dimpled rises from midges, and called them "smitting", but the term could be a "smutting" rise.


No, I think you were mostly right the first time, mostly. "Smutting rise" is a term used to describe the riseform of trout feeding on juvenile reed smuts (black fly larva and pupa) in Europe. The term was introduced to American angling literature by Ernest Schwiebert and has since been applied loosely to describe the rise forms of trout feeding on minutiae in general.

"Smitting" is a term applied to the delivery of Chernoble Tricos. It derives from the verb "smite", meaning, "to deliver a heavy blow, to defeat or conquer."

regards,

Kurt
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Gutcutter on Sep 3, 2011September 3rd, 2011, 10:41 am EDT

Funny mister! But now that you reminded me, I meant to ask you about a post somewhere here where you made mention of tying Tricos, I think it was, on the bend of larger than normal hooks...You want to expand on this? Please.

Spence


check this out.
This has worked for me in quite a few places, but I still prefer single flies, tied reverse hackle-stacker with microfibette tails

http://backpackflyfishing.com/blog/2010/06/06/the-traffic-jam-trico-cluster/
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Sayfu
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Sayfu on Sep 5, 2011September 5th, 2011, 4:41 am EDT

Tying more than one trico on a bigger hook seems like a great concept. Could tie maybe three tricos on a standard size # 14 hook. Tails on the one aft, and then body, wings on the other two. Create a spinner fall with one cast.
Gives meaning to the term "cluster fly"...you've heard that described for the Griffiths Gnat?...a cluster of midges for when they cluster up in a riffle/backwater.
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Oldredbarn on Sep 5, 2011September 5th, 2011, 8:33 am EDT
Sayfu,

Up on the Au Sable they have tied multiple Tricos on a larger hook for some time. The first ones I remember seeing were sold as "mating Tricos". It was two spinners tied on a larger hook. It is obviously a way of fishing the Trico hatch with a stouter hook.

That link of Tony's is interesting. When the hatch has been fairly heavy you can find these clumps of spent spinners stuck along the grass edge along the sides of the stream. Rafts of them break loose and float downstream when you walk over and your wading sends some waves up against the grass.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Bobbyp
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Bobbyp on Jan 20, 2018January 20th, 2018, 7:13 pm EST
Certain Gink and Albolene are the same thing. Buy where cosmetics are sold.
E.R.Hewitt used equal parts Albolene and kersone as a fly floatant.

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