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Lateral view of a Female Hexagenia limbata (Ephemeridae) (Hex) Mayfly Dun from the Namekagon River in Wisconsin
Hex Mayflies
Hexagenia limbata

The famous nocturnal Hex hatch of the Midwest (and a few other lucky locations) stirs to the surface mythically large brown trout that only touch streamers for the rest of the year.

Lateral view of a Male Baetidae (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #308 in Washington
This dun emerged from a mature nymph on my desk. Unfortunately its wings didn't perfectly dry out.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Outdoors198
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Outdoors198 on Nov 20, 2015November 20th, 2015, 5:24 pm EST
Has anyone tried Hareline's Wiggle Dub or an equivalent? I'm wanting to hear people's experiences/opinions. Thanks!
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Wbranch on Nov 20, 2015November 20th, 2015, 5:49 pm EST
Never heard of it. Can you tell me something about it? Is it a synthetic product? Is it fur? Please educate me.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
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Wbranch on Nov 21, 2015November 21st, 2015, 2:01 am EST
If you don't know what it is then you haven't used it. Google can tell you what it is.


Not the most friendly answer or the one I was looking to receive. Of course I could Google it if I wanted to do that. I figured since you are somewhat of a newbie on this forum you might share some of your knowledge with me, and others, but I guess you either don't give a rat's ass or you just like giving me a smart ass answer.

Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Outdoors198
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Outdoors198 on Nov 21, 2015November 21st, 2015, 5:08 am EST
You are right I apologize. I guess I wasn't in the best mood last night. It is no excuse. I think it is a natural dubbing with micro rubber legs added in for movement. I was also looking at Senyos shaggy dub which is micro silicone legs but I think that is all synthetic. I was curious about both for the added movement they might give. Versus regular, say, hares ear with plenty of guard hairs in a dubbing loop.
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Planettrout on Nov 22, 2015November 22nd, 2015, 6:29 am EST
Hareline's Wiggle Dub (similar to Swisher's GENERATION X DUBBING) is made using fine rubber. Sanyo's Shaggy Dub uses silicone.

I have tied with both.

Micro Rubber rots, mats together, globs into a mess and makes the pattern virtually unusable, if not completely dried out after use.

Silicone does not present that problem...


PT/TB
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Wbranch
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Wbranch on Nov 22, 2015November 22nd, 2015, 7:07 am EST
PT wrote;

Micro Rubber rots


Yes, absolutely a waste of time to tie a nice fly with rubber legs. I learned the hard way and tied half a dozen hoppers with nice yellow legs and after about a year the legs were brittle and falling off. I've tied larger nymphs with "sili-legs" and I've had them for years and the legs are as supple now as when I first tied them.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Outdoors198
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Outdoors198 on Nov 22, 2015November 22nd, 2015, 9:53 am EST
I am very glad to know about the rubber legs rotting so I don't waste time with it! Thankfully I bought a pack of sili legs recently! Thank you very much for the information everyone! I wonder if you could put sili legs in a coffee grinder and shred them into tinier fibers... Probably not.
Outdoors198
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Outdoors198 on Nov 22, 2015November 22nd, 2015, 10:39 am EST
Hareline's Wiggle Dub (similar to Swisher's GENERATION X DUBBING) is made using fine rubber. Sanyo's Shaggy Dub uses silicone.

I have tied with both.

Micro Rubber rots, mats together, globs into a mess and makes the pattern virtually unusable, if not completely dried out after use.

Silicone does not present that problem...


PT/TB


Do you still tie with the shaggy dub? How do/did you like it?
Planettrout
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Planettrout on Nov 23, 2015November 23rd, 2015, 5:42 am EST
Hareline's Wiggle Dub (similar to Swisher's GENERATION X DUBBING) is made using fine rubber. Sanyo's Shaggy Dub uses silicone.

I have tied with both.

Micro Rubber rots, mats together, globs into a mess and makes the pattern virtually unusable, if not completely dried out after use.

Silicone does not present that problem...


PT/TB


Do you still tie with the shaggy dub? How do/did you like it?



I have been using it for larger Caddis patterns (#6 - #10) and adding it to the dubbing mix for Seal Bugger type patterns. The silicone fiber sections are larger than micro rubber...


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