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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Amphizoa (Amphizoidae) Beetle Larva from Sears Creek in Washington
This is the first of it's family I've seen, collected from a tiny, fishless stream in the Cascades. The three species of this genus all live in the Northwest and are predators that primarily eat stonefly nymphs Merritt R.W., Cummins, K.W., and Berg, M.B. (2019).
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

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LittleJ on Dec 3, 2008December 3rd, 2008, 3:49 am EST
I figured it's about that time of year again, time to hold the second annual troutnut fy swap. I realize we are in the middle of the holliday season and every one is busy, so we won't have a due date until well after the first of the year. I just wanted to post this early enough that we can have some discussion towards a possible theme, while giving plenty of time for people to see the post and sign up. Personally it doesn't matter to me what we tie I've tried a handful of cool patterns this year that I could contribute. I think we should limit the number to 12ish, but i'm open for whatever.
CaseyP
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CaseyP on Dec 3, 2008December 3rd, 2008, 4:56 am EST
a theme idea: since this is an entomologically themed site, perhaps we could tie representations of insects, as opposed to minnows, sculpins, leeches, and baitfish. just an idea...
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

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LittleJ on Dec 4, 2008December 4th, 2008, 12:32 am EST
That sounds fine to me, however i want to be careful not to suggest realistic style tying because I don't want to turn anyone away (myself included). We'll see what everyone else has to say.
Jeff
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Martinlf on Dec 4, 2008December 4th, 2008, 5:11 am EST
I'm in. I have a fly in mind that I think you folks will find useful.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Trtklr
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Trtklr on Dec 4, 2008December 4th, 2008, 7:04 am EST
I don't know how y'all do this but I can tie some up.
I have seen nothing more beautiful than the sunrise on a cold stream.
CaseyP
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CaseyP on Dec 4, 2008December 4th, 2008, 1:51 pm EST
i want to be careful not to suggest realistic style tying

oh dear no! sorry, sir! sketchy representation was what i meant. "realistic" is not in my fly tying vocabulary.
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

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LittleJ on Dec 5, 2008December 5th, 2008, 8:25 am EST
Scott,
Here is how it works.
1.everyone ties one fly for each person in the swap.
2.Send the flies to me by the due date(T.B.A.). I will p.m. everyone my address.
3. I will return your box filled w/ one fly from everyone who participated.
4. be sure to include a name and recipe for your fly.

It's a good way to learn some new patterns. I have caught fish on every pattern tied from last years swap.

Here is who we got so far
1-jeff
2-Casey
3-Louis
4-Scott
5-?
6-?
7-?
8-?
9-?
10-?
11-?
12-?
Shawnny3
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Pleasant Gap, PA

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Shawnny3 on Dec 5, 2008December 5th, 2008, 10:36 am EST
I'd love to contribute something of my own and also get some flies from others (last year's were great), but I just don't know if I'll have the time with everything else I've got on my plate. I may have to pass on this one. When you have a due date, Jeff, please post it and I'll see if I can make it.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

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LittleJ on Dec 8, 2008December 8th, 2008, 3:16 pm EST
I just want to bump this back up.....
As soon as we gather a few more tiers we'll get a date set. If you have never done a fly swap give it a try. Most of us are spending more time at the vise this time of year than on the water, so give it a shot. The more variety the better the swap.
jeff
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Martinlf on Dec 9, 2008December 9th, 2008, 11:38 pm EST
Hey Shawn, jump on board. I don't think Jeff will stop the train before you're able to get off.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Trtklr
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Trtklr on Dec 10, 2008December 10th, 2008, 6:10 am EST
I have a nymph that is my own creation that I am going to send in. It works well, I think you all will find it worthy.
I have seen nothing more beautiful than the sunrise on a cold stream.
LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

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LittleJ on Dec 10, 2008December 10th, 2008, 2:09 pm EST
Sounds good scott.
Shawn, def. climb aboard, part of why I posted this up so early was to get a feel for when everyone thought they could have them done by. The last thing I want to do is have people tie against a deadline, kind of takes the fun out of it.
jeff
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Al514 on Dec 10, 2008December 10th, 2008, 4:07 pm EST
I'll join in. I know exactly what I'll tie up. I'll be checking back for a date!
Shawnny3
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Shawnny3 on Dec 10, 2008December 10th, 2008, 11:10 pm EST
OK, I'll do it. The pattern I want to tie is a little time-consuming. Maybe I'll do something simpler if I don't have the time.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
Trtklr
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Trtklr on Dec 11, 2008December 11th, 2008, 2:23 am EST
maybe somebody could tie up the infamous "cockabundy":). I searched a few ireland websites on trout and even e-mailed someone about it. could not find it anywhere. maybe its best we don't know what it is, could be too good ;).
I have seen nothing more beautiful than the sunrise on a cold stream.
CaseyP
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CaseyP on Dec 11, 2008December 11th, 2008, 3:52 am EST
i'll do some Bloody Butchers, which are exotic only because it's so hard to get the blue Mallard quills without the rest of the wing or bird. a hunter cousin of a fellow tier on another board sent some, so as long as there aren't more than a dozen of us, it will be good. they are a handsome and simple tie.
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
Al514
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Central New York

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Al514 on Dec 11, 2008December 11th, 2008, 11:35 am EST
I'll be tying up some "Curly's". Its an emerger pattern that is extremely simple, but I don't see very many patterns that look like it around my area. It works awesome when Hendricksons, March Browns, and even Iso's are coming off the water, though I have taken fish on it throughout the summer.

I hope I don't replicate any patterns that were tied up in last years swap!
Martinlf
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Martinlf on Dec 12, 2008December 12th, 2008, 3:17 am EST
Hi Artie,

You won't be replicating anything from last year, and since I love emerger patterns, at least one of us (and I'm sure more) will be delighted to see what curlys look like. I'll be tying a small emerger that works well for olives myself.

"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Shawnny3
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Shawnny3 on Dec 12, 2008December 12th, 2008, 10:11 am EST
I contributed what I call a curly worm last year, but I doubt yours is too similar, Al514. I'll include one of my own in the swap just for you, if you'd like.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
Martinlf
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Martinlf on Dec 12, 2008December 12th, 2008, 3:50 pm EST
Shawn, Artie's curlys are emergers, no worm to them, I believe.

--Oh, you're just being cute. I shoulda known.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell

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