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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
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Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Sweltsa (Chloroperlidae) (Sallfly) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This species was fairly abundant in a February sample of the upper Yakima.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Outdoors198 on Feb 28, 2015February 28th, 2015, 7:16 am EST
I'm interested in trying furled leaders. Im curious as to people's experiences with them both in moving and still waters; nymphing/wet flies and dries. Thank you!
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Roguerat on Feb 28, 2015February 28th, 2015, 9:18 am EST
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There were quite a few threads and posts on this subject some years back, just click on Fly Fishing Gear and sort through the history.
I've been furling my own leaders for a while now and personally prefer them to mono types; no curlicues, they lay out flat on a cast and they're limp as all-get-out to let the leader and tippet straighten out with less drag. Google the topic and you'll get a lot of sites and a lot of information, formulas for lengths and tapers, etc. to play with.
Shorter leaders around 7-9' with built-in indicators work well for nymphs and I've furled some 12-14' ones with proportionate tapers for dry flies on smooth water. It just takes the required setup on the furling board (and sometimes a longer board, mine is able to furl leaders up to 16').


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Outdoors198 on Feb 28, 2015February 28th, 2015, 9:35 am EST
Thanks. I did a search after I posted my question and I've been reading other posts. I really appreciate your information.
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Martinlf on Feb 28, 2015February 28th, 2015, 3:29 pm EST
Roguerat, what are you using? I had used Unithread but the new Veevus thread is much stronger.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

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Roguerat on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 3:22 am EST
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I use these 4 as the basis for leaders, favoring the Coats and Gutermann: Berkley XL 2# test, UNI-Mono Clear Monofilament in fine and medium, Coats Transparent in 'smoke' color, and Gutermann Invisible Thread also in smoke. I draw the finished leader through a block of softened beeswax as floatant, never have any problems keeping them on top.
I also use a 'tippet base' of 3X on the end of a furled leader, this gets sacrificed bit-by-bit as I change tippet..saves the end of the leader from being nibbled away.
For a nymphing leader I use Berkley ICE Line fluorocarbon in 1# test, roughly equivalent to 6X material. I'm getting away from in-line indicators and using Lightning Strike 'football' indicators more lately, in the smallest available.

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Outdoors198 on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 10:25 am EST
I built a jig last night and made my first thread furled leader using 6/0 uni thread. I'm quite thrilled with the ease of it and the fun. It turns over so easily just using my hand I can't wait to see it in action. I used these directions: http://www.hatchesmagazine.com/page/may2006/185
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Roguerat on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 11:46 am EST
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Cool! You're getting familiar with peg-placement, loop-count, and all the other stuff.

I joined the Furled Leader Forum a couple+ years back, you can find them at furledleaders.proboards.com.

These guys are REALLY into it and the information runs from the basics to mind-numbingly esoteric- take your pick. It's all good, just a lot of it.

Remember- if one leader is good then more are better...and too many is just enough.

Roguerat

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Roguerat on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 12:09 pm EST
Addendum to the furled-leader thread: I saw some commercially-made furled leaders at Cabela's yesterday and was dumbfounded at a) how loosely they were furled, and b) the cost...$ 8.50 on clearance!?
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Outdoors198 on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 1:17 pm EST
Something I am curious about is how to figure out your number of twists if you want to build it using the drill rpm/stopwatch method. Anybody know how to do it? Thanks!
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Outdoors198 on Mar 1, 2015March 1st, 2015, 1:18 pm EST
Thank you roguerat I'll have to check them out!

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