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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Skwala (Perlodidae) (Large Springfly) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This Skwala nymph still has a couple months left to go before hatching, but it's still a good representative of its species, which was extremely abundant in my sample for a stonefly of this size. It's obvious why the Yakima is known for its Skwala hatch.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Anar
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Anar on May 6, 2013May 6th, 2013, 1:15 pm EDT
Hey there,

I am a beginner fisherman who lives in Toronto ON, and I have been trying to catch trout for several months already but nothing. I have some questions, I would really appreciate if you could give me solid advice on catching a trout.

I have tried fishing trout with: 6 lb. main line and 4 lb. leader, tried roe eggs, garlic eggs power bait, artificial garlic flavour pink worm, marsh mellows.
I have tried in the afternoon, close to evening, also at night once.
I tried setup: bobber, size 3 split shots approx. 4-5 inch, and then size 14 hook.

What am I doing wrong ? Thank you.
Oldredbarn
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Oldredbarn on May 6, 2013May 6th, 2013, 5:06 pm EDT
What am I doing wrong ? Thank you.


Maybe your trout are vegetarians...How about bug-e-tarians...All kidding aside, if you are serious, look into a fly fishing site...;)

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Oldredbarn
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Novi, MI

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Oldredbarn on May 7, 2013May 7th, 2013, 12:31 pm EDT
Mack...You do understand irony, no? :) I was just poking a little. It's my job on this site...to play the little snarly terrier nipping around the ankles of the hardware and bait casting guys. :)






"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Sayfu
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Sayfu on May 7, 2013May 7th, 2013, 1:16 pm EDT
Oldredbarn. I admire that quality in a man. You are a fantastic nipper.
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Hayward, WI.

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Falsifly on May 7, 2013May 7th, 2013, 3:10 pm EDT
Anar, that is one impressive carp. I would gladly trade a dozen 20 in.+ trout caught on a spinner bait for one of those on a fly.

I have tried fishing trout with: 6 lb. main line and 4 lb. leader, tried roe eggs, garlic eggs power bait, artificial garlic flavour pink worm, marsh mellows.


I would add dough balls, cheese balls, popcorn and a hook inserted into a strike indicator. Garlic? Not during spawning season.

For those of you who are fly fishermen/women thinking that I am in any way belittling Anar, or the bait casting crowd, let me assure you that my suggestions have been proven, by me, to be most effective here in the State of Wisconsin. But of course I use a fly rod. ;)
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
Entoman
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Entoman on May 7, 2013May 7th, 2013, 8:54 pm EDT
For those of you who are fly fishermen/women thinking that I am in any way belittling Anar...

No way, Allan. If anything you are being over-generous. Frankly, I'm in mild distress over your public confession of dalliance with the dark side.:)

Anar - You will find more useful information about your method on a general fishing forum. This is a fly fishing forum with a big emphasis on insect hatches in keeping with the website's purpose. I'm afraid you've posted a bunch of basketball questions on a football forum. Not snobbery, just different interest and focus. That's what Oldredbarn was trying to tell you in his unique style. The reason he asked if you are serious is because your questions are pretty far afield from what we discuss here (or try to). We do get prank posts from time to time.

Look into fly fishing as an option! It's a wonderful sport... If you do, please come back as you will find many hear willing to help you.

Good fishing!


"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Entoman
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Entoman on May 7, 2013May 7th, 2013, 9:09 pm EDT
...but it was on a elk hair caddis size 16 on a 3 wht.

By chance, Mack - are you and Jon related?:)
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Entoman
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Entoman on May 8, 2013May 8th, 2013, 10:43 am EDT
:)
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
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Jmd123 on May 8, 2013May 8th, 2013, 2:10 pm EDT
"... elk hair caddis size 16 on a 3 wht..."

Did someone invoke my name??? Wouldn't ya know, I was just using the exact same a few hours ago...for TROUT, though, not carp! Even got a few today too, bugs and fish are finally waking up around here!

I actually DID once catch a carp on a 3-weight, a 7-footer (NO, not the carp!), on a chartreuse KBF no less. The fish was 28" long, weighed 10 pounds, and put up NO FIGHT whatsoever! I led it around by the nose until I could get my trout-sized net over about 1/3 of it's body and had to cradle the rest in my arms. Nice healthy-looking one too, all golden with red fins - don't know why it didn't fight like a salmon, given it's size...

BTW Anar, welcome to the forum! Just watch out for that Oldredbarn dude, he's trouble! ;oD

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
Anar
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Toronto

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Anar on May 9, 2013May 9th, 2013, 11:05 am EDT
Thank you everybody for your replies, I am sorry if I caused any inconvenience. I will address my questions to a fishing forum. I do not have any experience with fly fishing, does it really make a huge difference? could you please explain? May be I should convert.:)
Anar
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Toronto

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Anar on May 9, 2013May 9th, 2013, 11:09 am EDT
Would you share some those secret spots? :) or may be share some of your experience, I can drive no problem.
P.S. thank you for welcoming me.
Anar
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Toronto

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Anar on May 9, 2013May 9th, 2013, 6:00 pm EDT
Mack,
I understand regarding conservation and helping to reproduce wild trout.
I also wanna thank you so much for this offer I accept your condition:)

I'll practice and watch all the necessary videos on youtube. Though I haven't seen fly fishing kit in Canadian Tire but I'll double check. I went to Bass pro mills but the kit there was like 200-300 dollars. I am checking kijiji for cheaper price.
Once again Thank you very much.
Anar
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Toronto

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Anar on May 9, 2013May 9th, 2013, 6:48 pm EDT
Thank you Mack,
I appreciate it.

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