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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Lateral view of a Female Attenella margarita (Ephemerellidae) (Little Western Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Willowemoc Creek in New York
I found this dun unusually late in the year for anything in the Ephemerellidae family in the East. It's also small for that family.
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Troutnut on Oct 3, 2006October 3rd, 2006, 3:15 pm EDT
My Ephemerellidae keys are pretty much garbage when it comes to identifying female duns. I'm wondering if anybody has any insight on this one based on personal experience.

There can't be all that many tiny olive Ephemerellids hatching in September. My tentative guess would be Serratella.
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Taxon on Oct 3, 2006October 3rd, 2006, 6:41 pm EDT
Jason-

I'm reasonably confident that it's Attenella margarita.
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Roger Rohrbeck
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Troutnut on Oct 4, 2006October 4th, 2006, 6:08 am EDT
OK, I'll move it there for now. What makes you sure?

I looked through all the scientific papers I have on the likely species again and can't find anything useful. I really wish they described the females and the duns more often.
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Taxon on Oct 4, 2006October 4th, 2006, 9:23 am EDT
Jason-

Take a look at Fauceglia p. 67. It’s the best photo I’ve found of a Attenella female dun. Incidentally, I hadn’t yet discovered that photo when I offered the earlier opinion, but that reinforced my opinion.

In any event, there are a number of factors, which taken together, convinced me:
- dorsal pointed finger-like meso-thoractic projection
- hind wing costal projection
- body coloration
- size
- early Sep. emergence
- presence in NY
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Roger Rohrbeck
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