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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Sweltsa (Chloroperlidae) (Sallfly) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This species was fairly abundant in a February sample of the upper Yakima.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Report at a Glance

General RegionEastern PA
Specific LocationHatchery
Dates Fished3/6/10
Time of Day1pm to 5pm
Fish CaughtRainbow
Conditions & HatchesThe weather said it was gonna be 50, and it felt like it. Stream was about average, maybe a little higher than usual.

Details and Discussion

Keystoner
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Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

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Keystoner on Mar 6, 2010March 6th, 2010, 10:02 am EST
Hooked up with two on a Prince Albert bead head. Both of which escaped.
Finally landed a nice, maybe9 or 10 inch rainbow by hooking it (get this) in its hind most fin. What a struggle!!

First fish ever landed on a fly rod!!! Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonite.
"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB
Falsifly
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Hayward, WI.

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Falsifly on Mar 6, 2010March 6th, 2010, 11:45 am EST
First fish ever landed on a fly rod!!! Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonite.


Congrats Matthew, always good to hear about the first trout on a fly rod. It sounds as if you may have hooked yourself. Keep it up and you will lose count. Now try to get some sleep so you can get up and do it again.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
Patcrisci
Lagrangeville, NY

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Patcrisci on Mar 7, 2010March 7th, 2010, 2:05 am EST
keystoner, kudos on breaking the ice -- no pun intended -- and landing your first on the fly. here's to many more.
Pat Crisci
Keystoner
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Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

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Keystoner on Mar 7, 2010March 7th, 2010, 8:31 pm EST
Got back out sunday. First at the hatchery, then to the "fly only" stretch on millrace (for any one who might know where these are).

Nothing doing.

My technique still needs a lot of work, but thanks for the congrats!!!!
"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB
Keystoner
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Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

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Keystoner on Mar 9, 2010March 9th, 2010, 11:34 am EST
Ok, so I'm out there today (as I have been everyday since saturday), fishing nymphs of various types to fish that I can see to no avail.

[Although, I am getting pretty damn good a roll casting, but that's not the point.]

Right around 5 o'clock or so, light fading, I see a fish across the stream make a pretty pronounced rise.

What's the move here??? The first thing that came to my mind was a Griffith's Gnat, which I was fresh out of. That was what I had been seeing all day in those big clouds they make. Seemed rational.

Thoughts???
"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB
Jesse
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Jesse on Mar 10, 2010March 10th, 2010, 5:20 am EST
First off Mathew i just want to make sure your fishing the little lehigh river? And next, honestly man if you just saw that one sporatic fish rise it very well could have been on a passing by midge adult that it couldn't resist. If it wasn't that it's also possible that the fish was taking maybe a little winter stone. However if you saw clouds of tiny knats, tiny knats are probably what that boy wanted. That would be my best guess and in situations like that, i would suggest that you try a topwater frog pattern...they love them this time of year!

Jesse
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JOHNW
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Chambersburg, PA

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JOHNW on Mar 10, 2010March 10th, 2010, 9:38 am EST
Matthew,
Knowing the Little Lehigh my first gues would be a midge of some sort however the type of rise you describe is very UN"midge" like. If you saw just that one rise my next play would be to keep on pounding the nymphs. This is a lesson it has taken me a very long time to learn. Those sporadic rises will lead to alot of unproductive fishing time if you go chasing after them with dries. I usually try to wait until I see a fairly consistent set of rises before switching over to dries.

That being said you will want to have a good number of baetis imitations at the ready as that hatch should start busting out any day now. Try a small (#20)olive pheasant tail nymph trailed behind a larger nymph. I have seen those trout behave downright stupidly early in the baetis hatch. Also sneak down the hatchery side of the stream and prospect along the edges of the faster currents. Casting will be a pain over there but line managment will be much easier.
It's great to see your enthusiasm for the sport!
JW
"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn
Keystoner
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Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

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Keystoner on Mar 10, 2010March 10th, 2010, 10:09 pm EST
Thanks for your thoughts guys!

It was just the one rise I saw on tuesday, however, yesterday (wednesday)they were rising all over the place! I'm low on flies at this point, having lost about six or so to snags and tree branches. Learning is a bitch. Nice to get some imput on what I'm looking for when I go to re-stock the box! Thanks again, fellas!!
"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB
Wbranch
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York & Starlight PA

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Wbranch on Mar 10, 2010March 10th, 2010, 11:32 pm EST
Keystoner,

Send me you address and I'll send you some free trout flies.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Falsifly
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Hayward, WI.

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Falsifly on Mar 11, 2010March 11th, 2010, 4:17 am EST
I'm low on flies at this point, having lost about six or so to snags and tree branches.


I thought I’d throw in a little humor here, as the above quote reminded me of this story.

Last year, Doug, a client and very good friend of mine said that he and a friend would like to fish muskies on the Chippewa Flowage. They were interested in a half day with a guide, and asked if I would recommend someone. I recommended a long time friend and duck hunting partner Wayne Gutch, who happens to be a Chippewa Flowage muskie fishing legend. Several days later I ran into Doug and asked how they did. He said that he and his friend didn’t catch any muskies, but did manage to catch a hell of a lot of weeds. They also noticed that Wayne wasn’t catching any weeds, and finally towards the end of the day asked Wayne why they were catching weeds and he wasn’t. Wayne replied, “I’m not fishing for weeds”.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
Oldredbarn
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Novi, MI

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Oldredbarn on Mar 11, 2010March 11th, 2010, 5:33 am EST
Allan,

That is very funny!!!

Guides! They are definitly a species all their own!

Maybe they should of asked him if he might be thinking about fishing for a tip later!?

Thanks! I have a smile on my face...

Maybe you have started a new thread here concerning guide stories...I sure have a few, since like you, I have a couple friends that are guides...When you get them to let their guard down they could tell us some stories that are pretty damn funny about us (their clients)...

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Jesse
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Jesse on Mar 11, 2010March 11th, 2010, 4:37 pm EST
That was a good one allan i liked it! I don't really know what i would do at that moment if a guide said something like that to me, probably be a little shocked at first then laugh really hard...maybe i would just laugh really hard. Either way i like the funny stories they are always good to hear. Oh and mathew, get those bad boys!
Most of us fish our whole lives..not knowing its not the fish that we are after.
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Keystoner
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Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

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Keystoner on Mar 12, 2010March 12th, 2010, 12:11 pm EST
Just returned from the fly shop with a gaggle of new stuff. Mainly nymphs, gnats, wooly buggers, and of course, the baetis following JW's advice. Went small this time around mostly 16 and 22s realizing that my original equation ( bigger fly = bigger fish) may have been somewhat flawed. Ready to get back out there and see if I did the right thing.

"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB

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