The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.
UV materials...not sure where to buy flies with UV material... don't recall any of the stores (Orvis, fly shops etc) setting aside flies . I would like to try one, but don't know where to find them ... any thoughts? If the trout are saying yes, so will I. :)
but whether that excitement is being emphasized by exclamation points from anglers or dollar signs from entrepreneurs I don't know.
I'll second Paul's observation, though I've been experimenting with both the UV2 materials and some fluorescent materials, and like the results so far. However there is no way as far as I can tell to know for sure whether or not they actually made a difference.
It appears that trout take a fly for many different reasons, sometimes because it seems to match something they have been eating, sometimes just sampling because it might be food, and for other reasons, such as defending territory, or striking in a kill impulse.
And many tiers choose materials for many different reasons. Some like all natural materials, others prefer synthetics. Some want realistic flies, others prefer impressionistic, and many don't care as long as they catch fish. I've long since accepted that some of what I do when tying some of my flies is more for me than for the trout. But as long as I'm having fun and the trout are responding, it's all good.
I'd love to see some well-designed scientific studies on trout responses to both UV materials and fluorescent materials. However, I can't imagine who would fund them.
Again for the umpteenth time in this thread...
In general, I’m a stiff skeptic when it comes to color. Almost a stick in the mud. This isn’t to be a jerk, but, as a predator, I’m a bit of a control freak. I’m sensitive to falling for “superstition”. I’ve fished a long time (and done research) and seen so many theories crumble –in angling, especially ones surrounding color. I’ve even collected stories and anecdotes that expose such foolery. Let’s just say, I don’t believe everything I believe. Thus, I don’t believe everything others say they believe. Solid evidence is tough to come by, subject to interpretation and speculation.
Let's give the trout a break and utilize the skills we develop with the materials we have now rather than developing more materials to make it even easier to catch a trout.
Learn to cast for christsakes! Learn some skills.
Again for the umpteenth time in this thread... The materials marketed as "UV" have nothing to do with alleged salmonid UV vision. These are fluorescent materials that absorb UV to emit in the blue spectrum even though the base color may be different, like red for example. An interesting trait to be sure, but still just fluorescence. While trouts ability to see in UV and the significance of this to feeding behavior is worth discussing, confusing posts lacking a clear understanding of what's being discussed are...
IF visible (to the fish) UV is truly a trigger the trout are looking for, these are the last materials one would use as they are not reflecting any UV! It's being absorbed and converted for lack of a better word to visible light.
Materials that reflect only UV will appear black to us, not blue. Materials that do reflect varying amounts of UV may prove useful, but they won't have to glow blue... The originator of this thread has done some interesting work in this area and I hope that he revisits to help clear up the confusion. I don't blaim Trounut posters for being misled, but I am a little miffed at those mislabeling and hyping to sell stuff.
Not in my usual diplomatic mood tonight. :)