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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Zapada cinctipes (Nemouridae) (Tiny Winter Black) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
Nymphs of this species were fairly common in late-winter kick net samples from the upper Yakima River. Although I could not find a key to species of Zapada nymphs, a revision of the Nemouridae family by Baumann (1975) includes the following helpful sentence: "2 cervical gills on each side of midline, 1 arising inside and 1 outside of lateral cervical sclerites, usually single and elongate, sometimes constricted but with 3 or 4 branches arising beyond gill base in Zapada cinctipes." This specimen clearly has the branches and is within the range of that species.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Trtklr on Mar 7, 2009March 7th, 2009, 12:27 pm EST
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check that out and tell me what you think
I have seen nothing more beautiful than the sunrise on a cold stream.
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Taxon on Mar 7, 2009March 7th, 2009, 1:41 pm EST
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Interesting concept.
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Patcrisci on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 1:49 am EST
This is a really cool idea. Has anyone tried it?
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Troutnut on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 5:27 am EDT
Looks a lot like how they fish for trout with beads on the Kenai and other coastal Alaskan rivers, only adapted for insect flies.
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Wbranch on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 6:51 am EDT
"Looks a lot like how they fish for trout with beads on the Kenai"

Exactly what I thought of when I saw the video and web site. To hear them tell it they invented the concept. They may have developed the flies and the rubber dohickey but not the hooking outside the mouth. It appears the system will work better with sub surface flies than with dry flies. I'd think the hook would pull a #20 dry under the surface.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
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LittleJ on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 9:26 am EDT
I'd like to see it in use. To me it seems like you will miss a lot of fish. Most trout just don't hold on that long, but I do agree it's a cool concept. I think more practical for bait fisherman than fly. You could just change how you rig the bait. I'd like to see a sliding rig for fishing the surf.
jeff
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Shawnny3 on Mar 9, 2009March 9th, 2009, 2:17 pm EDT
I'd think you'd foul-hook a lot of fish. If the hook is dragging near the rear of the fish as you set it, it would seem highly likely that you'd hook the fish somewhere other than the mouth, particularly in the pectoral fin.

I guess I don't see many advantages to this system, while it has many obvious disadvantages. Most innovations are destined for the trash heap, and I suspect that is where this one should be.

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