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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Kogotus (Perlodidae) Stonefly Nymph from Mystery Creek #199 in Washington
This one pretty clearly keys to Kogotus, but it also looks fairly different from specimens I caught in the same creek about a month later in the year. With only one species of the genus known in Washington, I'm not sure about the answer to this ID.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Trtklr on Mar 7, 2009March 7th, 2009, 12:27 pm EST
check that out and tell me what you think
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Taxon on Mar 7, 2009March 7th, 2009, 1:41 pm EST

Interesting concept.
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Patcrisci on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 1:49 am EST
This is a really cool idea. Has anyone tried it?
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Troutnut on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 5:27 am EDT
Looks a lot like how they fish for trout with beads on the Kenai and other coastal Alaskan rivers, only adapted for insect flies.
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Wbranch on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 6:51 am EDT
"Looks a lot like how they fish for trout with beads on the Kenai"

Exactly what I thought of when I saw the video and web site. To hear them tell it they invented the concept. They may have developed the flies and the rubber dohickey but not the hooking outside the mouth. It appears the system will work better with sub surface flies than with dry flies. I'd think the hook would pull a #20 dry under the surface.
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LittleJ on Mar 8, 2009March 8th, 2009, 9:26 am EDT
I'd like to see it in use. To me it seems like you will miss a lot of fish. Most trout just don't hold on that long, but I do agree it's a cool concept. I think more practical for bait fisherman than fly. You could just change how you rig the bait. I'd like to see a sliding rig for fishing the surf.
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Shawnny3 on Mar 9, 2009March 9th, 2009, 2:17 pm EDT
I'd think you'd foul-hook a lot of fish. If the hook is dragging near the rear of the fish as you set it, it would seem highly likely that you'd hook the fish somewhere other than the mouth, particularly in the pectoral fin.

I guess I don't see many advantages to this system, while it has many obvious disadvantages. Most innovations are destined for the trash heap, and I suspect that is where this one should be.

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