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Lateral view of a Male Baetis (Baetidae) (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #43 in New York
Blue-winged Olives
Baetis

Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.

Dorsal view of a Limnephilidae (Giant Sedges) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This specimen resembled several others of around the same size and perhaps the same species, which were pretty common in my February sample from the upper Yakima. Unfortunately, I misplaced the specimen before I could get it under a microscope for a definitive ID.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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CamWolf1313
Andover, MA/ Andover NH

Posts: 18
CamWolf1313 on Jun 13, 2008June 13th, 2008, 2:18 pm EDT
I live in the Northeastern part of Massachusetts and have a lake house in the middle of New Hampshire just past Concord. I usually fly fish for smallmouth bass in lakes and ponds up here. I recently took a trip to Colorado and was lucky enough to fish the dream stream, along with the Blue and Colorado rivers. I was wondering if there was any rivers in the northeast that could yield the same excitement. Now what I actually mean is what river, brook, or stream, that will have the same level of thrill that discovering a pool of rainbows, browns, or cutthroat out west, will have up in the Northeast finding brookies or rainbows?
"Clear your mind of everything but the fish and the fly and you will be in the right mind frame to land it"
Billy Berger.
Smallstream
State College, PA

Posts: 103
Smallstream on Jun 14, 2008June 14th, 2008, 1:52 am EDT
I think comparing trout fishing out west to trout fishing here in the east is like comparing the ny yankees to the pittsburgh pirates, it really isnt fair to compare the two, I think the closest trout fishing to out west youll find east of the mississippi in terms of quality and size is probably the limestone streams of central pa.
CamWolf1313
Andover, MA/ Andover NH

Posts: 18
CamWolf1313 on Jun 14, 2008June 14th, 2008, 4:12 pm EDT
Being from Massachusetts and being a huge yankee fan it is nice to here a friendly fly fishermen compliment the yankees. But getting back to the matter at hand I have heard that the catskills have the same amount of brookies and rainbows but the size of these fish are far less than that of the cutbows and browns out west.
"Clear your mind of everything but the fish and the fly and you will be in the right mind frame to land it"
Billy Berger.
Smallstream
State College, PA

Posts: 103
Smallstream on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 4:28 am EDT
I grew up in western mass near springfield but Im no yankee fan lol, I have family that lives in gloucester maybe near where you are somewhat. I dont think anybody can deny that the west is the best when it comes to trout fishing.
LittleJ
Hollidaysburg Pa

Posts: 251
LittleJ on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 4:44 am EDT
I have little experience N. of Pa and even less experience out west. That being said don't write off the streams on the east coast just yet.
Speaking only of Pa I feel we have as good a concentration of top notch trout fishing as anywhere in the country. The fish can be tougher because of the pressure they recieve on the popular streams but once you unlock their secrets they are very productive. In my opinion the major difference in Eastern trout vs. western trout is the scenerey. My recomendation would be to buy a few delorme atlas's and start exploring I think that you will be very pleased w/ what you can find. By the way this is not intended to belittle western trout waters, the time i spent in rocky mountain national park(mostly hiking) was incomparable to any trip I have taken before. I just think that if you compare the experience accepting that the appalacians are not the rockies you could say a more proper analogy would be the colorado rockies to the pittsburgh pirates. Maybe my love of the yankees just puts them to high for the previous analogy to work,
or better yet we could draw a comparison between bbq ribs and steak, both delicious just different.
jeff
Martinlf
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Palmyra PA

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Martinlf on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 9:46 am EDT
Nice one Jeff--or Cicadas and Hoppers.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
CamWolf1313
Andover, MA/ Andover NH

Posts: 18
CamWolf1313 on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 10:53 am EDT
I think that we must also consider the pollution and dams that some of the eastern rivers have. Out west i know that there a huge fines for albody littering, never mind dumping garbage in or near the rivers and streams. The fish here in the east are hardy and are used to this but this may also play into their spawning cycles and others natural events that can be impeaded by dams and bridges. Out west their are no dams on the river but i still think that some of the popular rivers out west recieve far more pressure than up here in the Northeast.
"Clear your mind of everything but the fish and the fly and you will be in the right mind frame to land it"
Billy Berger.
Wiflyfisher
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Wisconsin

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Wiflyfisher on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 1:24 pm EDT
Out west their are no dams on the river


There are a lot of dams on rivers out West.

One I have watched before going out West to the Henry's Fork in Last Chance, Idaho is here: http://waterdata.usgs.gov/id/nwis/uv/?site_no=13042500&PARAmeter_cd=00065,00060.

If I had it my way, I would start on the Delaware River in April / early-May. Then go to Northwest Wisconsin (Namekagon & Bois Brule) for mid-May and June and then go out West (Madison River & Henry's Fork) for July and August. And down in Argentina & New Zealand during our winter months!
Gsnell
TN

Posts: 1
Gsnell on Jun 16, 2008June 16th, 2008, 3:19 pm EDT
Its not necessarily in your "neck of the woods" but it is closer than out west- try the Telico River tributaries in Tennessee. There are great rivers in upper Michigan including the mainland and U.P. that have many offerings. PA has some outstanding streams, crystal clear and challenging. Out west is good but not the end all.
Teddyp
North Carolina

Posts: 18
Teddyp on Jun 17, 2008June 17th, 2008, 5:40 am EDT
I currently live in Western North Carolina and fish the smokies, lots of great places. I've also lived in Vermont and fished many great waters there and in Maine for wild brook and landlock salmon. There's lot of great fishing within driving distance of Mass. A little research and a little exploring will get you onto some good fish.

Tight lines

Teddy
Ted
CamWolf1313
Andover, MA/ Andover NH

Posts: 18
CamWolf1313 on Jun 17, 2008June 17th, 2008, 8:13 am EDT
John S. your totally right about the dams. i wasn't really thinking. i ment to say that the eastern streams where i am have a lot of little dams impeading native trout to spawn. Out West your right in saying that there are huge dams but i would say there aren't as much on the actual trout river, the dams out west are at the ends of lakes.
"Clear your mind of everything but the fish and the fly and you will be in the right mind frame to land it"
Billy Berger.
Smallstream
State College, PA

Posts: 103
Smallstream on Jun 18, 2008June 18th, 2008, 2:39 am EDT
In no way is the east bad for trout fishing, there are tons of good places, just saying that if you had to call the fight the west would win hands down because it has more fish, bigger fish, healthier wild populations, better habitat, less pressure, more cold water, the list goes on on and on. Ive only been out west once when I was a kid and only now do I really appreciate how good it actually was. cant wait to go back.

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