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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Setvena wahkeena (Perlodidae) (Wahkeena Springfly) Stonefly Nymph from Mystery Creek #199 in Washington
As far as I can tell, this species has only previously been reported from one site in Oregon along the Columbia gorge. However, the key characteristics are fairly unmistakable in all except for one minor detail:
— 4 small yellow spots on frons visible in photos
— Narrow occipital spinule row curves forward (but doesn’t quite meet on stem of ecdysial suture, as it's supposed to in this species)
— Short spinules on anterior margin of front legs
— Short rposterior row of blunt spinules on abdominal tergae, rather than elongated spinules dorsally
I caught several of these mature nymphs in the fishless, tiny headwaters of a creek high in the Wenatchee Mountains.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Shawnny3
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Shawnny3 on May 4, 2008May 4th, 2008, 2:29 pm EDT
OK, so I finally caved in and bought my first Poly Yarn and Hi-Vis a few days ago. As I was leaving my tying room to go outside to burn some wings where the fumes wouldn't kill my children, I turned around to shut the door and realized that there was a fluorescent green area on my desk. I went back in to see if it was a reflection from a night-light or something, and then realized in a HOLY CRAP sort of epiphany that one of the packets of Hi-Vis I just bought was GLOWING IN THE FREAKING DARK. I actually flipped the packet over to read the card and make sure the color checked was not 'Radium' - nope, just plain old White.

I'm still in shock and don't know what to say.

-Shawn
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Mtskibum
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Mtskibum on May 4, 2008May 4th, 2008, 4:48 pm EDT
When i was a kid, one of my favorite spinners(even during the day) was a glow in the dark white color. It produced fish when nothing else would.


What brand of stuff are you using? I fly fish at night every now and then, and would like some glow in the dark material.
Getyourbone
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Getyourbone on May 4, 2008May 4th, 2008, 5:59 pm EDT
Ya, what brand? I am always a sucker for trying something different? Maybe it's pretty common but I have never seen it.
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Martinlf on May 5, 2008May 5th, 2008, 2:14 am EDT
Yes, I have some of the glow in the dark Hi-vis. It's typically labeled that way, but it looks like plain white so someone at the factory must have gotten them mixed up. It's not bright enough for glow spinners, though. There's just one method I've found that works for that.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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Shawnny3 on May 5, 2008May 5th, 2008, 11:28 am EDT
You may be right, Louis, about an error in packaging. One of the colors on the card is 'Glow in the Dark'. But the packet I have is clearly marked 'White'.

The brand was L&L, for what it's worth.

Out of curiosity, Louis, what have you finally found to dress your glow-in-the-dark monstrosities? That is, if you can tell us without divulging any secrets that might jeopardize national security.

-Shawn
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Martinlf on May 6, 2008May 6th, 2008, 5:45 am EDT
http://glowinc.com/detail.aspx?ID=41

On a foam parachute post. Wear a lead apron when tying and fishing this baby, though.

A red light preserves night vision, as does a UV light (Loon mini), which charges the fly nicely. Best for close-up spinner eaters as can't be seen at a distance unless the night is very dark and you're in a tree tunnel, but under the right conditions you can do very well. Just ask JohnW. Oh, use the star trick, don't look directly at it, but just to the side.

Or do what Gonzo does and use a wet fly. I like this method also, and sometimes combine, dropping the wet from the eye or bend of the parachute hackle spinner.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Getyourbone
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Getyourbone on May 6, 2008May 6th, 2008, 9:13 am EDT
I just may have to tie some lighting bug patterns! I wonder if fish eat lighting bugs?
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JOHNW on May 6, 2008May 6th, 2008, 10:59 am EDT
"I wonder if fish eat lighting bugs? "
Gettybourne,
one word= YES
Now it is not as consistent as aquatic insects but far more common than periodic cicadas.

As for the effectiveness of Louis' glow spinners if you fish tight brushy streams where there is minimal glare once the sun sets the post is a beacon visible out to about 25'. For bigger water it drops dramatically to a range of about 10-15' however there is a certain thrill to working in that close to a spinner sipping fish. Individual milage may vary.
John
"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn
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Martinlf on May 7, 2008May 7th, 2008, 9:26 am EDT
I even know someone who has some lightning bug patterns.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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Martinlf on Jun 6, 2012June 6th, 2012, 9:43 pm EDT
One last glow spinner thread, though it's listed first. Start at the third one down and read up if glow in the dark spinners interest you. Tony, we've talked about this, and I just PM'd Eric.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell

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