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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Artistic view of a Perlodidae (Springflies and Yellow Stones) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
This one seems to lead to Couplet 35 of the Key to Genera of Perlodidae Nymphs and the genus Isoperla, but I'm skeptical that's correct based on the general look. I need to get it under the microscope to review several choices in the key, and it'll probably end up a different Perlodidae.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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LenH
driftless area

Posts: 58
LenH on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 3:45 am EST
I usually walked by this snag corner.


It yelled at me to take a photo.

So if it needs a photo...

It needs to be fished....

The photo is taken facing downstream....that is the way I fished it.

I put on a size 4 dumbell eyed bunny leech (black)

I fed the line downstream under the snag.

ALL in one motion the fish hit...turned..........2x leader.

My line came back empty ...no fly also....

Is thing nightmares are made of.

Any suggestions on how to fish this hole differently?
Dano
Vanderbilt, Michigan

Posts: 101
Dano on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 4:10 am EST
Len,

I have a couple of thoughts....

I suspect it's a Brown you're after, no?

The only tactic I'd change is go with a heavier leader/tippet, possibly one no longer than 4'. From what I see, the water appears somewhat turbid. Then I'd hit the hole an hour or so before the official sunrise. There's a real good chance that that he'll be out of his sancturary and in his established feeding lane.

Be patient and look for rythmic bulges and try to position the fly a foot or so up from them. When you strike, do so in the same direction he turns, chances are he'll turn in the opposite direction in an attempt to get away from the pressure. There's also a very good chance he'll come right at ya' after he makes his turn. So, don't try to play off the reel, strip line in, then fight from the reel when you have a little more room. Oh, and try to keep the rod low, playing a brute in tight quarters in the "classic" rod high, butt close to the chest only forces him to try and go deeper. I also wouldn't try to get any closer than 25-30'.

A "trick" I learned years ago when Steelheading, is to strum the line like a geetar they will turn and it's worked for me on Browns, 'Bows, Salmon, and nearly any other kind of fish I've played...

Failing that, if it's legal, I'd suggest doing a littl night fishing, using the same approach I've described.

Out here, fishing for trout at night is prohibited, no earlier than an hour before the official sunrise and no later than an hour after the officel sunset. Biggest Browns I've landed have always been within an hour before sunrise upto and mebbe an hour after the official sunrise, depending on how deep in the woods I am...Good luck and it can be done. FWIW.

Dano


Eventually, all things merge into one...and a river runs through it.
LenH
driftless area

Posts: 58
LenH on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 4:23 am EST
was a nine foot leader...early morning...

yes...brown trout...

was using old 6/7 fiberglass Berkely Para-metric...Kurt Gowdy rod...
kinda soft rod...

I have a 5/6 sage fast action that is a little more stout.

This hole is 40 minutes off the road in best light.
Dano
Vanderbilt, Michigan

Posts: 101
Dano on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 4:36 am EST
Len,

Go with Sage. 9' tippet is too long, even a 7.5' is pushing it. What do you consider "early morning" to be?

Dano


Eventually, all things merge into one...and a river runs through it.
LenH
driftless area

Posts: 58
LenH on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 5:09 am EST
this is 40 minutes from first light...

that is if i go directly to this hole.

I have a couple other named trout on way to this hole.

The short leaders sounds good...

maybe i need to start out half an hour before first light.

I gotta get it out from under that jam or it will do it again.
Dano
Vanderbilt, Michigan

Posts: 101
Dano on Feb 19, 2008February 19th, 2008, 6:36 am EST
Yeah, sounds good.

Don't think you'll ever get him out of that hole, trick is to get him when he is out of his sancturary...Just make damn sure you sneak up real softly. You'll get him, I'm sure of that with your experience....

Dano


Eventually, all things merge into one...and a river runs through it.
Wbranch
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York & Starlight PA

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Wbranch on Mar 14, 2008March 14th, 2008, 3:23 am EDT
Hmmm, let's see place a 1/2 pound of C4 at the middle of the big log, set it for a 30 second detonation and get the heck out of the way.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Martinlf
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Palmyra PA

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Martinlf on Mar 15, 2008March 15th, 2008, 8:08 am EDT
This from the guy who won't fish a Green Weenie?

See, Matt, I don't get mad. I just get even. :)
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Shawnny3
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Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1197
Shawnny3 on Mar 15, 2008March 15th, 2008, 9:34 am EDT
Louis, please don't try to bring others down to your level. Fishing with explosives versus fishing with green weenies is again comparing apples and oranges, and again you make the wrong moral choice.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
Martinlf
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Palmyra PA

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Martinlf on Mar 15, 2008March 15th, 2008, 3:01 pm EDT
Shawn, I see you failed to respond to my attempt to call you out on the Honey Bug thread. Do I need to buy a chicken suit and follow you around on the stream?
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
Shawnny3
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Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1197
Shawnny3 on Mar 16, 2008March 16th, 2008, 3:33 am EDT
Sorry, Louis, I haven't been following that one. I'll check it out and get back to you if I have the guts.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com

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