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Lateral view of a Male Baetis (Baetidae) (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #43 in New York
Blue-winged Olives
Baetis

Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.

Dorsal view of a Kogotus (Perlodidae) Stonefly Nymph from Mystery Creek #199 in Washington
This one pretty clearly keys to Kogotus, but it also looks fairly different from specimens I caught in the same creek about a month later in the year. With only one species of the genus known in Washington, I'm not sure about the answer to this ID.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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IEatimago
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IEatimago on Jul 21, 2007July 21st, 2007, 2:35 pm EDT
i never new tying a leaders could be so much fun, i just recenlty started and i think this will improve alot of things for me, i have read some things on george harvey formula's .
i fish a 7.6' 3 weight does anyone have any leader formulas that would be 7 and 1/2 feet tht i could try or just anything really im intrested in trying out all manner of things.
Martinlf
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Martinlf on Jul 21, 2007July 21st, 2007, 5:11 pm EDT
Check out Joe Humphrey's books. I believe he has some shorter leader formulas in one of them. Also either E.J. Hille or Hook and Hackle have some leader formulas on a website.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

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JOHNW on Jul 22, 2007July 22nd, 2007, 4:36 am EDT
What tippet do you want to end with?
The 7'6" leaders I tie pretty much start like this 36" of .02, 18" of .017, 6" of .013, .010, and .008 and ending with 18+" of .006 for a 5x tippet. This is pretty much my general purpose leader and I'll add or subtract streamside as I carry a spool of everything from 0x-8x.
JW
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GONZO
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GONZO on Jul 22, 2007July 22nd, 2007, 5:06 am EDT
Jasen,

Here are a couple of interesting "oldie-but-goodie" McClane tapers you can play around with (you might want to adjust these for a thinner tippet):

"a short, fast taper for small streams or casting into strong headwinds": 25" of .017, 25" of .015, 10" of .013, 10" of .011, 10" of .009, 20" of .008.

"a double-taper that can be used by anyone without alteration": 12" of .015, 6" of .016, 6" of .017, 12" of .018, 12" of .017, 12" of .015, 12" of .013, 12" of .011, 12" of .009, 15" of .008.

In general, because the butt dimensions are a critical starting point and the stiffness of the material (rather than just its diameter) should be taken into account, you might want to make sure the starting diameter/stiffness of your material works well with your 3 weight line. The standard way to do this is with a "flex test." Grab either side of the line/leader butt junction about three or four inches apart, bend it into an arc, and rock it back and forth. This should reveal if diameter/stiffness is well matched to the line. If not, adjust the butt diameter accordingly.

IEatimago
Spring Mills, PA

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IEatimago on Jul 22, 2007July 22nd, 2007, 6:12 am EDT
this is great, thank you fellows.
Shawnny3
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Shawnny3 on Jul 28, 2007July 28th, 2007, 2:11 am EDT
That's a really good tip about matching the line and leader butt, Gonzo. I'll have to try that one.

-Shawn
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