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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Lateral view of a Onocosmoecus (Limnephilidae) (Great Late-Summer Sedge) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This specimen keys pretty easily to Onocosmoecus, and it closely resembles a specimen from Alaska which caddis expert Dave Ruiter recognized as this genus. As with that specimen, the only species in the genus documented in this area is Onocosmoecus unicolor, but Dave suggested for that specimen that there might be multiple not-yet-distinguished species under the unicolor umbrella and it would be best to stick with the genus-level ID. I'm doing the same for this one.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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GaryO
Roseville, CA

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GaryO on Jun 24, 2015June 24th, 2015, 4:12 pm EDT
Is Cortland 333 Classic Trout/All Purpose Fly Line an easy line to fish with? Any thoughts? What say you? Thanks...
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Martinlf on Jun 24, 2015June 24th, 2015, 5:31 pm EDT
I haven't used this line in years, but it was OK when I was getting started. More expensive lines such as the Scientific Anglers textured lines will shoot farther, but for short range fishing, 333 should be fine.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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Colorado

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PaulRoberts on Jun 27, 2015June 27th, 2015, 2:39 pm EDT
An emphatic NO! Unless they've changed the formula in recent years the 333 "Classic" is too supple (read wimpy) to shoot line with and makes line handling a nightmare. I tried one in the mid 90's and it hung/draped like a wet noodle in the guides and hung up there continually. It's one thing to shake/wriggle line out the guides another when the line fights you tooth and nail by clinging to the guides. Unless they've stiffened them up some -added a slicker stiffer more rigid skin- I say an emphatic, NO!
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Martinlf on Jun 27, 2015June 27th, 2015, 4:34 pm EDT
OK, I'll have to say if Paul says NO, I'll have to defer; you'll do much better spending a little more money for a stiffer line.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
TNEAL
GRAYLING. MICHIGAN

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TNEAL on Jun 29, 2015June 29th, 2015, 12:23 pm EDT
I used a 333 for several years and never experienced the difficulties mentioned above. I just bought two more new ones.
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Colorado

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PaulRoberts on Jun 29, 2015June 29th, 2015, 7:09 pm EDT
You know, after the mention of RIT dying fly-lines I wonder if I'd over-heated mine. Kind of doubt it, but it's a possibility. I know I hated that line. And, it was after 333 that the newer stiffer formulas appeared -truly an enormous advancement in fly-line technology.
MiltRPowell
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MiltRPowell on Jun 29, 2015June 29th, 2015, 7:34 pm EDT
Never have any problem with 333. DT. I would not say it is a far shooting line. But for some small stream, & brook & more. Put it this way, they have sold miles of the classic line. I also like the 444, but there are loads of great products for sale today. Whatever you get, have fun fishing.... What one may like, another may hate, & so... On!!! Same with rods, try-them till you find the one that just fits you...
Milt...
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