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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Zapada cinctipes (Nemouridae) (Tiny Winter Black) Stonefly Nymph from the Yakima River in Washington
Nymphs of this species were fairly common in late-winter kick net samples from the upper Yakima River. Although I could not find a key to species of Zapada nymphs, a revision of the Nemouridae family by Baumann (1975) includes the following helpful sentence: "2 cervical gills on each side of midline, 1 arising inside and 1 outside of lateral cervical sclerites, usually single and elongate, sometimes constricted but with 3 or 4 branches arising beyond gill base in Zapada cinctipes." This specimen clearly has the branches and is within the range of that species.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Tyro
illinois

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Tyro on Jan 8, 2014January 8th, 2014, 1:26 pm EST
I'm an older fisherman who inherited a Wright McGill "Granger" (#6590) 9' fly rod from my father-in-laws father and am eager to learn the art of fly casting for trout. I understand that rod, reel, line, etc. needs to be a balanced combo, but am unsure what weight reel and line would go well with this rod. Can anyone offer some suggestions?

Thanks
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Troutnut on Jan 8, 2014January 8th, 2014, 3:58 pm EST
It doesn't look like that's a model they're making anymore, and it's a fairly specialized question, so I would suggest contacting the manufacturer directly (here's their contact information) to ask about that particular rod. You're correct that the reel and line need to be appropriate for the rod.
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Entoman on Jan 8, 2014January 8th, 2014, 5:27 pm EST
Welcome to the forum!

Don't fish with that rod until you've had it looked at! Based on your age and the fact it came from somebody of your grandfathers generation, I'm assuming it may have substantial collectible value. The rod is named after one of the old masters, Goodwin Granger. He was affiliated with W&M for awhile and produced rods for them. If I remember my history, they were modestly priced rods of decent workmanship but made of inferior bamboo. Frankly, not the best outfit to learn with even if it turns out to be less valuable than I assume.

BTW - look for a designation on the rod showing three letters together like "HCH." That was how lines were designated before AFTMA when all lines were made of silk. They will tell the proper line match for your rod. From there you'd be able to determine a matching reel.

Best,
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Tyro
illinois

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Tyro on Jan 9, 2014January 9th, 2014, 4:19 am EST
Thanks, Guys

I've emailed Eagle already but haven't gotten a reply yet about the rod. I'll probably call them in the next day or so.

Entoman,

I should have mentioned that the rod I've inherited is fiberglass. I'll look more closely to see if I can find a line designation.

Thanks again and I'm sure I'll have more questions.
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Falsifly on Jan 9, 2014January 9th, 2014, 4:48 am EST
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When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
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Entoman on Jan 9, 2014January 9th, 2014, 12:06 pm EST
Thanks, Al. Had forgotten the Phillipson connection. He later went on to build fiberglass rods under his own name. They were arguably the best on the market in that material. I owned a couple back in the early 70's that were pretty sweet.
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Tyro
illinois

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Tyro on Jan 9, 2014January 9th, 2014, 12:52 pm EST
Thanks, Gentlemen

An interesting history lesson. I finally talked with Wright & McGill and was told that my rod was produced in 1951 and that it is a 4-5 wt.
Tyro
illinois

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Tyro on Jan 10, 2014January 10th, 2014, 3:58 am EST
Now I need to choose a reel. I'm looking at the Orvis Encounter 11 large arbor for 50 bucks. Anybody out there have any thoughts on how this reel would function for a beginner fly fisherman?
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Falsifly on Jan 10, 2014January 10th, 2014, 4:34 am EST
Tyro,I don't know that this consideration would necessarily be a problem but you may want to check the reel fit to the rod real seat.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
Tyro
illinois

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Tyro on Jan 12, 2014January 12th, 2014, 11:44 am EST
Thanks, Falsify
I talked with Orvis and got the the reel's foot dimensions, which will work fine with my rod's reel seat.

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