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Baetis
Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.
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This one seems to tentatively key to Holocentropus, although I can't make out the anal spines in Couplet 7 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae nor the dark bands in Couplet 4 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae, making me wonder if I went wrong somewhere in keying it out. I don't see where that could have happened, though. It might also be that it's a very immature larva and doesn't possess all the identifying characteristics in the key yet. If Holocentropus is correct, then Holocentropus flavus and Holocentropus interruptus are the two likely possibilities based on range, but I was not able to find a description of their larvae.
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Martinlf on Apr 25, 2009April 25th, 2009, 1:03 pm EDT
By request, I have secured special permission to establish this unique thread with a special set of rules:
1. Nothing of any depth, detail, or complexity may be posted in this thread.
2. No Latin words of any sort, whether describing insects or for general purposes will be tolerated.
3. No one with a Ph.D. may post anything here, with the exception of this initial post, which establishes rules for what can't be done here.
4. No one from the Northeast may post in this thread, including transplants from other regions who currently reside in the Northeast, and some from Wisconsin may be banned if they push their luck.
5. Still no haiku. And no limericks here either.
1. Nothing of any depth, detail, or complexity may be posted in this thread.
2. No Latin words of any sort, whether describing insects or for general purposes will be tolerated.
3. No one with a Ph.D. may post anything here, with the exception of this initial post, which establishes rules for what can't be done here.
4. No one from the Northeast may post in this thread, including transplants from other regions who currently reside in the Northeast, and some from Wisconsin may be banned if they push their luck.
5. Still no haiku. And no limericks here either.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"
--Fred Chappell
--Fred Chappell
Troutnut on Apr 25, 2009April 25th, 2009, 1:22 pm EDT
I'd better get in on this and post something before I get a PhD...
No Latin names though? Hmm... in that case, this is all I've got:
No Latin names though? Hmm... in that case, this is all I've got:
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D.
Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
Hellgramite on Apr 25, 2009April 25th, 2009, 3:58 pm EDT
I'm glad you guys are having fun with this.By the way Jason,I like your hat!!
Taxon on Apr 25, 2009April 25th, 2009, 5:46 pm EDT
Lewis-
Seems as though I qualify with regard to rules (3, 4, and 5). And, with regard to rules (1 and 2), I have stifled my natural urges. However, that leaves me with absolutely nothing to contribute, which upon further reflection, is most likely the norm anyway.
Seems as though I qualify with regard to rules (3, 4, and 5). And, with regard to rules (1 and 2), I have stifled my natural urges. However, that leaves me with absolutely nothing to contribute, which upon further reflection, is most likely the norm anyway.
Grannom on Apr 26, 2009April 26th, 2009, 8:20 am EDT
Well, I was born in Maryland, so I'm not "from" the Northeast. So, thanks to that loop-hole, I'm totally allowed to post here! Nice! Do I need to play the part of the backwoods, NASCAR/Bud Light loving, Marylandian lawnchair fisherman, or am I allowed to express my acquired Northeast intellect? Let me know, because I would totally love to participate in this thread. Only under good terms, that is.
Maryland Mike
Maryland Mike
"Be calm - you're there..." "...Tell yourself there's no rush, even if there is."
-John Gierach
-John Gierach
Falsifly on Apr 26, 2009April 26th, 2009, 11:26 am EDT
1. Nothing of any depth, detail, or complexity may be posted in this thread.
Well, we’re off to a good start. No more long drawn out dissertations of the infinite nuances, and the knowledge thus gained, that some feel we must aspire to in order to catch trout. A tactic used by many to mask their ineptitude, and to convince those who would otherwise catch fish why they don’t.
2. No Latin words of any sort, whether describing insects or for general purposes will be tolerated.
Getting better. No more baffling language to further disguise and obscure simplicity. Another tactic used rather exclusively by fly fishermen to further elevate and distinguish themselves from the lower forms. Ah, how could one possibly catch trout without a thorough scientific understanding of aquatic entomology and the Latin thus associated?
3. No one with a Ph.D. may post anything here, with the exception of this initial post, which establishes rules for what can't be done here.
This one may very well be the best. No more shall we be asked to answer the Professor’s questions, only to have him turn around and answer the question for us.
4. No one from the Northeast may post in this thread, including transplants from other regions who currently reside in the Northeast, and some from Wisconsin may be banned if they push their luck.
SSShhh, can you hear it? Peace and quiet, no posts from the Northeast, they must be fuming with rage, unable to destroy our solitude as we simply go on “Just Fishing For Trout”. Am I pushing my luck?
5. Still no haiku. And no limericks here either.
All forums have a silly rule; it’s not so much the haiku as it is no limericks. That I will miss.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
RleeP on Apr 26, 2009April 26th, 2009, 4:37 pm EDT
Well, I'm going to take the stated rules in aggregate as a prohibition on sophistication and fancy stuff. I have to in order to participate, being originally from the Northeast.
Here's my non-sophisticated, completely unfancy contribution.
The best tool for fishing small alder clogged brooks in a 8 1/2 foot Western Auto Fiberglass fly rod built to be matched with an HCH line. You put one of those no-knot eyelets up into the core of the line and attached a 4 feet section on 8 lb. Stren with a #6 Eagle claw bait hook tied to the end of it. You impale a small gray salamander you found under a stream side log on the hook, poke the rod into the alders and let the salamander drop into the water. Then you hang on.
And that's pretty much all I know about trout fishing. I don;t get nuanced until we start talking about crappie...
Here's my non-sophisticated, completely unfancy contribution.
The best tool for fishing small alder clogged brooks in a 8 1/2 foot Western Auto Fiberglass fly rod built to be matched with an HCH line. You put one of those no-knot eyelets up into the core of the line and attached a 4 feet section on 8 lb. Stren with a #6 Eagle claw bait hook tied to the end of it. You impale a small gray salamander you found under a stream side log on the hook, poke the rod into the alders and let the salamander drop into the water. Then you hang on.
And that's pretty much all I know about trout fishing. I don;t get nuanced until we start talking about crappie...
Flatstick96 on Apr 27, 2009April 27th, 2009, 7:30 am EDT
Man, I'm REALLY close to being able to post here.
1. Nothing of any depth, detail, or complexity may be posted in this thread.
No problem; I'm a self-described "fly-fishing simpleton", and I like it that way. There is plenty of complexity in other areas of my life, and I try hard to keep that out of my fishing.
2. No Latin words of any sort, whether describing insects or for general purposes will be tolerated.
Latin? I can barely speak English...
3. No one with a Ph.D. may post anything here, with the exception of this initial post, which establishes rules for what can't be done here.
It's been almost 15 years since I BARELY sneaked out of college with a BS; I STILL occasionally wake up in a panic in the middle of the night, having just had the "I never actually graduated" nightmare. If there's one thing you can hang your hat on, it's this: I'll never have a Ph.D.
4. No one from the Northeast may post in this thread, including transplants from other regions who currently reside in the Northeast, and some from Wisconsin may be banned if they push their luck.
Here is where it gets sticky; I'm FROM the northeast, but I haven't lived there for several years, and I hardly ever get back there. So, if you're from the northeast but have been transplanted to the gates of hell, do you get to post here?
5. Still no haiku. And no limericks here either.
Thank goodness; I couldn't write either of those if my life depended on it.
1. Nothing of any depth, detail, or complexity may be posted in this thread.
No problem; I'm a self-described "fly-fishing simpleton", and I like it that way. There is plenty of complexity in other areas of my life, and I try hard to keep that out of my fishing.
2. No Latin words of any sort, whether describing insects or for general purposes will be tolerated.
Latin? I can barely speak English...
3. No one with a Ph.D. may post anything here, with the exception of this initial post, which establishes rules for what can't be done here.
It's been almost 15 years since I BARELY sneaked out of college with a BS; I STILL occasionally wake up in a panic in the middle of the night, having just had the "I never actually graduated" nightmare. If there's one thing you can hang your hat on, it's this: I'll never have a Ph.D.
4. No one from the Northeast may post in this thread, including transplants from other regions who currently reside in the Northeast, and some from Wisconsin may be banned if they push their luck.
Here is where it gets sticky; I'm FROM the northeast, but I haven't lived there for several years, and I hardly ever get back there. So, if you're from the northeast but have been transplanted to the gates of hell, do you get to post here?
5. Still no haiku. And no limericks here either.
Thank goodness; I couldn't write either of those if my life depended on it.
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