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Lateral view of a Male Baetis (Baetidae) (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #43 in New York
Blue-winged Olives
Baetis

Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.

Lateral view of a Psychodidae True Fly Larva from Mystery Creek #308 in Washington
This wild-looking little thing completely puzzled me. At first I was thinking beetle or month larva, until I got a look at the pictures on the computer screen. I made a couple of incorrect guesses before entomologist Greg Courtney pointed me in the right direction with Psychodidae. He suggested a possible genus of Thornburghiella, but could not rule out some other members of the tribe Pericomini.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Wbranch on Sep 7, 2015September 7th, 2015, 6:20 pm EDT
Are Ceratopogonidae multi generational throughout spring, summer, and fall? I am plagued by them at my cabin particularly when it is warm with no breeze and I break a sweat while mowing the lawn or working around the cabin. They seem to prefer to land inside my ears or on my brow and they are so persistent in their desire to draw blood I have to smoke cigars so I can keep a cloud of smoke around me. Why aren't they a nuisance when I'm in the drift boat?
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Catskilljon
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Catskilljon on Sep 7, 2015September 7th, 2015, 6:44 pm EDT
I don't know what they are, but I have the same problem when walking around the yard working. It seems that they live in the grass and you kick them up moving around. The more you work the worse it gets!

Cant explain the boat thing other than there is no grass there :) CJ
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Taxon on Sep 7, 2015September 7th, 2015, 7:52 pm EDT
Are Ceratopogonidae multi generational


Ceratopogonidae have a 2-6 week life cycle, so another generation would emerge at that approximate frequency, except that their final instar larvae overwinter, and then pupate once the water has re-warmed sufficiently.
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Wbranch on Sep 7, 2015September 7th, 2015, 8:53 pm EDT
Roger wrote;

Ceratopogonidae have a 2-6 week life cycle, so another generation would emerge at that approximate frequency,


Thank you for the informative response. They pester me from my first trip to the cabin in late April and continue to do so until I close the cabin in mid October.

Is high percentage DEET an effective product to keep them at bay?

Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
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Taxon on Sep 7, 2015September 7th, 2015, 9:33 pm EDT
Is high percentage DEET an effective product to keep them at bay?


My understanding is that nothing is effective against them. However once ravaged, I have read that Burt's Bees Diaper Ointment is a miracle cure. :-)
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Martinlf on Sep 8, 2015September 8th, 2015, 6:11 am EDT
Recently saw a very positive review by a flyfisher of the following product:

http://allnaturalrepellent.com/prd_byebye.html

I don't know if it can be as effective as they claim, but would be interested to hear if somebody tries it.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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Oldredbarn on Sep 22, 2015September 22nd, 2015, 3:48 pm EDT
Louis,

I like the "carpe insectae"...:)

Matt...One night years back during the Hex, I was actually run off the river by them. I was losing my mind. Swinging my hat at them and cursing them...I think I wandered into a mating swarm...I trespassed off the river and practicaly ran till I hit the road...In town I was in a 7-11 and the guy behind the counter asked if I was ok...The area where my shirt was open near the collar looked like I had been hit by a shotguun blast...There were so many bites.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
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Taxon on Sep 22, 2015September 22nd, 2015, 6:00 pm EDT
Spence-

Let me get this straight. You wandered into a Hex mating swarm, and were actually "bitten" by them? :-)
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Roger Rohrbeck
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Catskilljon
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Catskilljon on Sep 22, 2015September 22nd, 2015, 8:55 pm EDT
Spence-

Let me get this straight. You wandered into a Hex mating swarm, and were actually "bitten" by them? :-)


You think that sounds bad? I was once pummeled by a March Brown spinner fall, still have dents in my hat from it! CJ
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Oldredbarn on Sep 23, 2015September 23rd, 2015, 11:20 am EDT
No! I was fishing the Hex hatch and wandered into a mating swarm of biting bugs...Had to flee the river and hardly fished that evening.

It was the roughist night I can remember regarding my never ending battle with the biters that labor to make my night time angling experiences, hell!

By "them" I meant no-see-ums...They were the topic, no? :)

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
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Taxon on Sep 23, 2015September 23rd, 2015, 12:51 pm EDT
:-)
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Oldredbarn on Sep 24, 2015September 24th, 2015, 10:16 am EDT
You know Roger, Ever since my first wife left me in 1979, I've always been in need of a good editor...Thanks for making me tow-the-line. :)

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
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Taxon on Sep 24, 2015September 24th, 2015, 5:40 pm EDT
Who, me? :-)
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Roger Rohrbeck
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