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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Dorsal view of a Holocentropus (Polycentropodidae) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This one seems to tentatively key to Holocentropus, although I can't make out the anal spines in Couplet 7 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae nor the dark bands in Couplet 4 of the Key to Genera of Polycentropodidae Larvae, making me wonder if I went wrong somewhere in keying it out. I don't see where that could have happened, though. It might also be that it's a very immature larva and doesn't possess all the identifying characteristics in the key yet. If Holocentropus is correct, then Holocentropus flavus and Holocentropus interruptus are the two likely possibilities based on range, but I was not able to find a description of their larvae.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Scottt
crested butte

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Scottt on Mar 27, 2007March 27th, 2007, 12:08 pm EDT
hey everyone, just courious on peoples opinions on different fly lines for fihing for trout in lakes. i just started fishing in lakes from a float tube last summer. my friend taught my to fish with wooly buggers trolling behind the float tube, with what i think was a full sinking line. now i'm hearing about intermediate sink tip lines with a floating fly line. can i fish these lines like i learned with the full sink, are they as sensitive to strikes as the full sink? any other info or experiences you have too offer would be appreciated.

thanks, scott

ps. this is my first post, just found the site, seems great, nice to meet you
GONZO
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"Bear Swamp," PA

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GONZO on Mar 27, 2007March 27th, 2007, 12:47 pm EDT
Hi Scott,

Welcome to the site--CB is my favorite Colorado ski area!

The full range of sinking lines, from fast-sinking to intermediate lines and sink-tips, have application in lake-fishing for trout; and their application there is much greater than in stream fishing. The choice of line depends on the character of the lake and water temperatures.

On alpine lakes with cool surface temperatures, the trout will be cruising the shallows and surface where most of the food is found. In these situations, shallow-running lines like intermediates or slow-sinking or intermediate sink-tips have good application. Even a floating line will be useful when the fish are on a hatch or feeding on wind-blown terrestrials.

On lower elevation lakes, one often has to reach the thermocline in the summer months in order to find trout. Fast-sinking lines are often needed to plumb the depths, though I have had some success with heavily weighted flies or split shot added to intermediate lines. You can even get pretty deep by adding weight to a very long leader on a floating line, but casting gets compromised or even impossible. (If you're trolling, you just pay out line rather than cast.)

Sensitivity to the strike is not much of an issue when trolling or retrieving a fly, and most fish should virtually hook themselves.

What kind of lakes are you fishing? (No names needed, just depth, temperature, and character.)
Troutnut
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Bellevue, WA

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Troutnut on Mar 27, 2007March 27th, 2007, 12:48 pm EDT
Welcome to the site. :)

I know next to nothing about fishing for trout in lakes, so I'll just defer to the expertise of others here. I'm a river guy, so far.
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D.
Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
Scottt
crested butte

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Scottt on Mar 27, 2007March 27th, 2007, 7:02 pm EDT
thanks for the replies gonzo and jason. mostly i'll be fishing alpine lakes in CO above 8,000 feet and some lower lakes in utah. the main reason i'm asking is that i just bought a new reel with an extra spool that i ordered with a rio aqualux line which is translucent and sinks at a rate of 1-2 ips, but what wound up coming on my new spool was a rio aqualux midge tip line, which is like a yellow floating line with about four feet of clear sinking tip, which also has a sink rate of 1-2 ips. i don't really know how deep i'm trying to get, i'm guessing 1-5 or 10 feet, is this going to do it? should i send it back? does the sinking tip also pull some of the floating line down?
GONZO
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"Bear Swamp," PA

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GONZO on Mar 28, 2007March 28th, 2007, 4:43 am EDT
Scott,

While the "midge tip" will work for some fishing near the surface, the floating portion is subject to wave action and limits depth. The line that you originally ordered is more appropriate. Get what you wanted--don't settle for a mistake!
Scottt
crested butte

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Scottt on Mar 28, 2007March 28th, 2007, 12:21 pm EDT
thanks gonzo, i agree, it's getting sent back

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