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Artistic view of a Male Pteronarcys californica (Pteronarcyidae) (Giant Salmonfly) Stonefly Adult from the Gallatin River in Montana
Salmonflies
Pteronarcys californica

The giant Salmonflies of the Western mountains are legendary for their proclivity to elicit consistent dry-fly action and ferocious strikes.

Lateral view of a Female Sweltsa borealis (Chloroperlidae) (Boreal Sallfly) Stonefly Adult from Harris Creek in Washington
I was not fishing, but happened to be at an unrelated social event on a hill above this tiny creek (which I never even saw) when this stonefly flew by me. I assume it came from there. Some key characteristics are tricky to follow, but process of elimination ultimately led me to Sweltsa borealis. It is reassuringly similar to this specimen posted by Bob Newell years ago. It is also so strikingly similar to this nymph from the same river system that I'm comfortable identifying that nymph from this adult. I was especially pleased with the closeup photo of four mites parasitizing this one.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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Brooklover
chester county pa

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Brooklover on Apr 22, 2008April 22nd, 2008, 1:22 pm EDT
I was curious if there is an under water camera that can be left in a pool that will transmit to the internet? If so how much would it cost. im tryin to find out what a small stream in my area holds. Even a camera that was trigered by motion or was on a timer would work. kinda like a game camera that hunters use.
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CaseyP on Apr 22, 2008April 22nd, 2008, 2:01 pm EDT
d'you mean like those cameras they point at construction sites? we watched the new Nationals Stadium get built that way. too cool for words! a large construction firm might be able to steer you to whoever puts up cameras for them. then you'd need a waterproof box; oh, and some electricity...when it's up, be sure to let us know!
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
Brooklover
chester county pa

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Brooklover on Apr 23, 2008April 23rd, 2008, 11:31 am EDT
nothing that sophisticated. ive seen cameras in walmart that hunters set up on deer trails to see whats traveling by. There motion triggered. not sure if i could get a waterproof case for one. also not sure if just the motion of the water would set them off or not.
Brooklover
chester county pa

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Brooklover on Apr 23, 2008April 23rd, 2008, 11:34 am EDT
nothing that sophisticated. ive seen cameras in walmart that hunters set up on deer trails to see whats traveling by. There motion triggered. not sure if i could get a waterproof case for one. also not sure if just the motion of the water would set them off or not.
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Shawnny3 on Apr 23, 2008April 23rd, 2008, 1:01 pm EDT
I would worry about the camera being either stolen or washed away.

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Troutnut on Apr 23, 2008April 23rd, 2008, 4:09 pm EDT
It's going to be really hard to do what you want to do, and probably only possible if the stream is right next to your house. You need, at the very least, an electrical power supply, and probably a way to run computer cords out there. A car battery isn't enough power. You wouldn't want to try it unless you're really good with electronics.

I've looked into the possibilities for this pretty exhaustively in the last couple weeks because I'm going to do something similar with my research (though recording instead of transmitting to the Internet, which would be impossible unless tethered to a computer). For long-term surveillance I'm going to use an Aqua-Vu AV DVR ice fishing camera hooked up to two car batteries in parallel, and I'll still have to switch out the recording media every 8 hours to get 24 hours of video. Then I'll have to go recharge the two 50-pound batteries before I can do it again. Very far from ideal...

My recommendation is to figure out what's in the stream the old-fashioned way, by sitting on the bank and watching.
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D.
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