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Lateral view of a Male Baetis (Baetidae) (Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Mystery Creek #43 in New York
Blue-winged Olives
Baetis

Tiny Baetis mayflies are perhaps the most commonly encountered and imitated by anglers on all American trout streams due to their great abundance, widespread distribution, and trout-friendly emergence habits.

Dorsal view of a Grammotaulius betteni (Limnephilidae) (Northern Caddisfly) Caddisfly Larva from the Yakima River in Washington
This is a striking caddis larva with an interesting color pattern on the head. Here are some characteristics I was able to see under the microscope, but could not easily expose for a picture:
- The prosternal horn is present.
- The mandible is clearly toothed, not formed into a uniform scraper blade.
- The seems to be only 2 major setae on the ventral edge of the hind femur.
- Chloride epithelia seem to be absent from the dorsal side of any abdominal segments.
Based on these characteristics and the ones more easily visible from the pictures, this seems to be Grammotaulius. The key's description of the case is spot-on: "Case cylindrical, made of longitudinally arranged sedge or similar leaves," as is the description of the markings on the head, "Dorsum of head light brownish yellow with numerous discrete, small, dark spots." The spot pattern on the head is a very good match to figure 19.312 of Merritt R.W., Cummins, K.W., and Berg, M.B. (2019). The species ID is based on Grammotaulius betteni being the only species of this genus known in Washington state.
27" brown trout, my largest ever. It was the sub-dominant fish in its pool. After this, I hooked the bigger one, but I couldn't land it.
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754cromero has attached this picture to aid in identification. The message is below.
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754cromero on Feb 3, 2013February 3rd, 2013, 6:50 pm EST
Seeing some of the great pictures on this website, I wish I had something better than a point-and-shoot to take the pictures I did. That said, I'm not looking for a species identification, but just want to make sure I'm on the right track (Order or Family is good enough for me) of identifying this insect. The only thing I can imagine this being is a hellgrammite, but it still doesn't have all the spines I'd think of with a hellgrammite. (So, if others concur it is a hellgrammite, why does it not have the spines? age? species?)

Other info: it is about 1 inch long, and crawled onto my waders in the Smith River in Virginia.

Thanks.
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Creno on Feb 3, 2013February 3rd, 2013, 8:10 pm EST
Howdy - this is indeed a larvae - one of the many free-living Rhyacophila species. Probably one of the R. fuscula group but I cannot see enough of the head/thorax color pattern to be sure about which species.
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PaulRoberts on Feb 4, 2013February 4th, 2013, 5:56 am EST
Look up Rhyacophila in Google images and ... off you go: ID, habitat, habits, fly patterns, etc... . Start by searching this site for a lot of great images and discussion about Rhyacophila or just about anything else you could find clinging to your waders or in a trout's stomach.

BTW: Welcome.
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Oldredbarn on Feb 4, 2013February 4th, 2013, 6:14 am EST
I love this site! Where else can a newbie post an iquiry and have Dave answer it?! Our own favorite caddis bug guy...:) Thanks sir!

Welcome cromero! That is a nice photo from a tyers standpoint...Dave is a pro and, as he said, would need more to id to species for you...Close enough if you ask me...I could see a gold bead head with a light olive/celery colored body...

You can see why the trout find these critters yummy...That is a good bit of protein for a fish.

Anglers...If you are mayfly-opic you are missing the boat...A trout can munch on these all day and never have to visit the dangerous surface and there would be nary a buldge to give him away...Can you spell, "searching fly"? ;)

Those steelheaders already know this...See www.defranksflies.com Check out his Kazulen's Caddis.

Spence

...and then Paul Robert's to boot! :)
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754cromero on Feb 6, 2013February 6th, 2013, 11:37 am EST
Thanks for the quick and courteous replies! I did fall in to the trap of thinking (all) caddisflies built shelters.

Thanks again,
Charles
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Jmd123 on Feb 7, 2013February 7th, 2013, 1:28 pm EST
I believe this specimen is typical of what many fly fisherman refer to as a "green rock worm", and there are many good fly patterns to imitate this group of species. Confirmation from Spence or others? Also, these are net-spinners, no?

Welcome to the forum, Charles! You'll find plenty of "bug-nuts" on this site. (Perhaps it should be called "bugnut.com" instead??...at least the way all of the posts are going as of late - not too many of us are out fly fishing so we gotta do something else...)

;oD

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
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Taxon on Feb 7, 2013February 7th, 2013, 3:04 pm EST
Jonathan,

Also, these are net-spinners, no?


Net spinners are in superfamily Hydropsychoidae and look more like this:

Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
www.FlyfishingEntomology.com
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Jmd123 on Feb 8, 2013February 8th, 2013, 8:46 am EST
I thought I was wrong - thanks for correcting me. What do these "green rock worms" eat, are they predacious? Guess I could go look it up in Gary Lafontaine's "Caddisflies", I do have a copy...

Jonathon
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Oldredbarn on Feb 8, 2013February 8th, 2013, 9:39 am EST
are they predacious?


Yes...They have a fondness for black fly larvae...Yum! No? :(

Spence
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Taxon on Feb 8, 2013February 8th, 2013, 9:46 am EST
Hi Jonathan-

What do these "green rock worms" eat, are they predacious?

Yes, primarily. Among the (~126) Rhyacophila species are predators (engulfers), a few scrapers, collecter-gatherers, shreders-herbivors (chewers) per Glen B. Wiggins.
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
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