Last reply on Feb 26, 2016 by
Martinlf
Please forgive the trite and dated "To Tell the Truth" title, but recent conversation and speculation about
E. needhami subs is scattered through another thread ("Taxonomy and DNA"), so I thought I'd start this thread in an attempt to consolidate some of that conversation. The "
E. needhami/Chocolate Dun" of angling lit. and popular hatch charts can be very different from the
E. needhami described in the scientific literature. I'm convinced that it is often confused with
Eurylophella spp. or
Teloganopsis deficiens (formerly
Serratella deficiens) partly because of questionable descriptions of the "blackish" wings of the duns and partly because the other genus and species are not well known to most anglers (even though they are commonly encountered on many eastern trout streams).
Your Ephemerella X looks an awful lot like this guy, who I formerly had placed in a couple different species but have put with Ephemerella needhami now after Gonzo made a convincing case for it. I'm guessing the X is needhami, at least for the specimen you pictured. The one I photographed on the Delaware was a small 16 or large 18, but that's within the range of variation for a single species at different places/times.
Just as a point of clarification, Jason and I have had recent discussions about this species, and I did (recently) post about the misidentification of several subs and adults (
Eurylophella spp.) that were previously included on the
needhami pages. However, it was Dr. David Funk's confident identification of the above specimen that seemed to seal its placement. I believe he is correct.
Jason, that sure looks like it. But... I thought needhami were very dark, with blackish wings -similar to S. deficiens. That's as I remember it. Could well be wrong.
That's a pretty common (mis?)conception, Paul, and I believe it can probably be traced to Caucci and Nastasi's
Hatches (1975). Although McDunnough's 1931 (re)description of this species described the
needhami subs as having "very pale smoky unicolorous wings," C&N's
Hatches described them as "dark grey almost black." I'm convinced that the latter description is based on a misidentification because C&N's color photo, captioned "Ephemerella
needhami, male dun," appears to be a
Eurylophella dun. (It has the telltale long 9th abdominal segment.)
Though your photo could very well be needhami, it looks like it could also be an eastern excrucians. Do you remember Gonzo's rationale? I looked for it on the hatch page but only found from my quick scan a conversation about another family. Gonzo didn't participate as far as I could tell.
Just to be clear, Kurt, I did participate, to the point of initiating a previous thread about this specimen, but my participation was limited to expressing my doubts about its original placement in
Serratella.
PS I started to post yesterday that I thought your bug was needhami and pulled the post after a half hour or so...I had sent an email up to Gates' about a so-called "Dark Henrickson they had listed on their Hatch Chart...They wrote me back it was the web masters typo...I started to doubt myself and yanked the post. I was having doubts due to its size...
Thanks, Spence. That explains the mystery of the disappearing posts. :)
I'm not making an argument that Paul's mystery "Ephemerella X" dun is
E. needhami. I just wanted to point out that the species is often subject to misidentification based on (some angling) descriptions that are probably attributable to other species. Only a few years after his original 1925 description, McDunnough (1931) said this:
Considerable confusion has existed regarding this species; it has been misidentified as excrucians Wlsh. by Needham and, to complicate matters, its nymph has been misassociated with bispina Needh. which belongs in another section of the genus.
And so it goes....